Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
The
VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX
is LIVE! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Does the "Friends" cantrip need a fix?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Pandaemoni" data-source="post: 6855788" data-attributes="member: 6689321"><p>I've used it myself to get information as well as buy items. While the DMs involved did cut me some slack (*see below") a number of the uses would have worked perfectly well without it. One example, we were in a small town looking for a a famous thief who we suspected had retired there. With a good insight check we gathered that a stable boy we were questioning might know something, but was withholding it. I cast <em>Friends</em> and went back to him and learned the alias the thief was using. The second use that really didn;t need leeway was when I was buying items at a local bazaar. I got a better price than I might have, and just had to be sure to slip away quickly after I had the items. </p><p></p><p>The leeway that did exist, though, is that, first the DM's judged "hostile" to mean "angry at being manipulated" but not more. That means that, in the case of the stable boy, the fact that I paid him some silver for the information mitigated the anger, even if it didn't eliminate it. Second, "hostile" doesn't automatically mean ready to have you killed or arrested, so much as ready to throw you out (unless the circumstances warrant otherwise). I think that is more realistic, as it is rather the reaction you get when anyone learns they have been manipulated. The third bit of leeway is that the DMs treated the spell as if it were subtle, the application of makeup not being seen as "casting a spell." Those all help, but they were not strictly speaking needed in every case I used the spell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pandaemoni, post: 6855788, member: 6689321"] I've used it myself to get information as well as buy items. While the DMs involved did cut me some slack (*see below") a number of the uses would have worked perfectly well without it. One example, we were in a small town looking for a a famous thief who we suspected had retired there. With a good insight check we gathered that a stable boy we were questioning might know something, but was withholding it. I cast [I]Friends[/I] and went back to him and learned the alias the thief was using. The second use that really didn;t need leeway was when I was buying items at a local bazaar. I got a better price than I might have, and just had to be sure to slip away quickly after I had the items. The leeway that did exist, though, is that, first the DM's judged "hostile" to mean "angry at being manipulated" but not more. That means that, in the case of the stable boy, the fact that I paid him some silver for the information mitigated the anger, even if it didn't eliminate it. Second, "hostile" doesn't automatically mean ready to have you killed or arrested, so much as ready to throw you out (unless the circumstances warrant otherwise). I think that is more realistic, as it is rather the reaction you get when anyone learns they have been manipulated. The third bit of leeway is that the DMs treated the spell as if it were subtle, the application of makeup not being seen as "casting a spell." Those all help, but they were not strictly speaking needed in every case I used the spell. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Does the "Friends" cantrip need a fix?
Top