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<blockquote data-quote="thedungeondelver" data-source="post: 4944294" data-attributes="member: 34865"><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Man.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">I can't speak for anyone else's experience, but what got me hot under the collar was when back in late '98 early '99 when I started getting back in to <strong>D&D</strong> after a decade-plus hiatus, asking around, putting out feelers as to where to get books, looking for information (on the wretched rec.games.frp.dnd, and other places) and basically hitting a wall of "You'll switch to 3rd ed when it comes out. Just wait." and "God, why would you want to play that game?" and variations on "Gygax sucks" (I didn't even <em>know</em> Gary at that point and I found that irksome).</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Well, needless to say I got books, I got modules, I got players, and I play the game I want. I also got sick of hearing the above, in different keys, but the same melody over and over.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">I'm not so naive as to think anyone here might think that I think that "The other guys started it first" in the overall, but really? For me, yeah, yeah "they" did.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">When the ad push for 4e came around, it was the same stuff...only this time out of the mouths of WotC themselves: <strong>D&D</strong> players have been doing it wrong all along, only now can you really play <strong>D&D</strong> right, "bullet in the head" and so on.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">So push, and I push back.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Also? I as a 39 year old father of two, being the home-maker, I have very little gaming time. I wish I had more. Hell, I wish I could drive the Gaming RV around the country, pulling a trailer full of Dwarven Forge and painted minis, spreading the vintage <strong>D&D</strong> gospel! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">But, I don't have that kind of free time. I have enough time for one game, every couple of weeks. Plus a little time in the week, on which I occasionally game, as of late, though, usually not.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Why should I spend the time I have to game playing something that right now, I find extremely onerous, on the off chance that I <em>might</em> start to like it or a later revision <em>might</em> make OK? At least with <strong>ADVANCED DUNGEONS & DRAGONS</strong> I know that WotC won't release a supplement that will screw up a class, introduce a wholly unworkable spell or rule, and so on.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">I guess that's where the split is for me.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">I play what I play because I like it; I've complained about the things I don't like because in the past I've been told what I do like is sub-par.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thedungeondelver, post: 4944294, member: 34865"] [font=century gothic] Man. I can't speak for anyone else's experience, but what got me hot under the collar was when back in late '98 early '99 when I started getting back in to [b]D&D[/b] after a decade-plus hiatus, asking around, putting out feelers as to where to get books, looking for information (on the wretched rec.games.frp.dnd, and other places) and basically hitting a wall of "You'll switch to 3rd ed when it comes out. Just wait." and "God, why would you want to play that game?" and variations on "Gygax sucks" (I didn't even [i]know[/i] Gary at that point and I found that irksome). Well, needless to say I got books, I got modules, I got players, and I play the game I want. I also got sick of hearing the above, in different keys, but the same melody over and over. I'm not so naive as to think anyone here might think that I think that "The other guys started it first" in the overall, but really? For me, yeah, yeah "they" did. When the ad push for 4e came around, it was the same stuff...only this time out of the mouths of WotC themselves: [b]D&D[/b] players have been doing it wrong all along, only now can you really play [b]D&D[/b] right, "bullet in the head" and so on. So push, and I push back. Also? I as a 39 year old father of two, being the home-maker, I have very little gaming time. I wish I had more. Hell, I wish I could drive the Gaming RV around the country, pulling a trailer full of Dwarven Forge and painted minis, spreading the vintage [b]D&D[/b] gospel! :D But, I don't have that kind of free time. I have enough time for one game, every couple of weeks. Plus a little time in the week, on which I occasionally game, as of late, though, usually not. Why should I spend the time I have to game playing something that right now, I find extremely onerous, on the off chance that I [i]might[/i] start to like it or a later revision [i]might[/i] make OK? At least with [B]ADVANCED DUNGEONS & DRAGONS[/b] I know that WotC won't release a supplement that will screw up a class, introduce a wholly unworkable spell or rule, and so on. I guess that's where the split is for me. I play what I play because I like it; I've complained about the things I don't like because in the past I've been told what I do like is sub-par. [/font] [/QUOTE]
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