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Dragonfire adept help with Draconic Claw
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<blockquote data-quote="sukael" data-source="post: 3545511" data-attributes="member: 19578"><p>How does the character have the feat? It requires Draconic Heritage, which itself requires at least one level in sorcerer... Note that some of the draconic feats, generally the ones that have a 'special effect while spellcasting' clause, have Draconic Heritage as a prerequisite, while others only require the dragonblood subtype (which Draconic Heritage gives, or which you can get through other means, like being a dragonborn of Bahamut or a spellscale, or having Dragontouched--which is a bonus feat for dragonfire adepts).</p><p></p><p>The claw attack is separate from needing to spellcast, incidentally, though I know what you're referring to - "In any round when you cast a spell with a casting time of 1 standard action, you can make a single claw attack as a swift action (see page 86) against an opponent you threaten."</p><p></p><p>The dragonfire adept wouldn't be able to use this along with its breath weapon, as that isn't a spell... neither are its invocations, which makes this feat relatively worthless for them by the RAW. (Just getting a natural weapon isn't that useful on its own, really...)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ambiguous by the RAW ("You can make a natural attack with your <strong>claw</strong>, dealing damage based on your size..."), but the intent seems to be that only one natural attack is given, not two.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think there's a feat in Draconomicon that does something like this (giving an extra natural weapon attack), but I can't recall the name.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Improved Natural Attack from the Monster Manual, which would increase the damage for a Medium character from d6 to d8. Not really that worth it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>2. Note that that's another of the ones that requires having Draconic Heritage and thus a sorcerer level, though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sukael, post: 3545511, member: 19578"] How does the character have the feat? It requires Draconic Heritage, which itself requires at least one level in sorcerer... Note that some of the draconic feats, generally the ones that have a 'special effect while spellcasting' clause, have Draconic Heritage as a prerequisite, while others only require the dragonblood subtype (which Draconic Heritage gives, or which you can get through other means, like being a dragonborn of Bahamut or a spellscale, or having Dragontouched--which is a bonus feat for dragonfire adepts). The claw attack is separate from needing to spellcast, incidentally, though I know what you're referring to - "In any round when you cast a spell with a casting time of 1 standard action, you can make a single claw attack as a swift action (see page 86) against an opponent you threaten." The dragonfire adept wouldn't be able to use this along with its breath weapon, as that isn't a spell... neither are its invocations, which makes this feat relatively worthless for them by the RAW. (Just getting a natural weapon isn't that useful on its own, really...) Ambiguous by the RAW ("You can make a natural attack with your [b]claw[/b], dealing damage based on your size..."), but the intent seems to be that only one natural attack is given, not two. I think there's a feat in Draconomicon that does something like this (giving an extra natural weapon attack), but I can't recall the name. Improved Natural Attack from the Monster Manual, which would increase the damage for a Medium character from d6 to d8. Not really that worth it. 2. Note that that's another of the ones that requires having Draconic Heritage and thus a sorcerer level, though. [/QUOTE]
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