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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8745723" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Ah yes, I'd forgotten, in this new civilized world "mild critique" is code for "assassination attempt". Silly me, I should remember that expressing my opinion is the exact same as shooting someone with a bullet. Guess I'm going to jail for attempted murder now. </p><p></p><p>Oh wait. Mild Critiques are still just mild critiques and NOT attempted assassinations? Whew. I guess I dodged that one. </p><p></p><p>Also, weird if death threats against Salman Rushdie in 1988 stopped all artistic expression forever... how did my one of my favorite authors release a book this year? Wait, how have I been writing for the past two years? All artistic expression is suppressed isn't it? Because, you know, that was the argument that I was responding to. Or have you forgotten the actual point of the discussion in your rush to condemn me for the crimes you imagine I've committed?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And some how I doubt this has anything to do with anything. Sure, sometimes society regresses. And then it doesn't. We tend to view things like "killed for their opinion" as bad still, so I don't think we are regressing as far back as we used to be. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then your point has absolutely NOTHING to do with my point or my rebuttal to the original argument. You are doing the equivalent of looking at 1+1=2 and saying "But what about the Circumference of the circle!"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of COURSE it isn't the only one. Some people hold the view that women are aliens. But just because a view is held doesn't mean it is valid, or that we can't call it out for being BS. You literally are just reversing course from what you said about Mein Kampf, our view that Hitler was wrong isn't the only view after all, but I don't think the majority of people would take that to mean that we can't call it what it is.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Feel free to advocate for ethnic cleansings then. But me? I'm going to stand firmly on the side of saying "Hey, that's bad. Don't do that." </p><p></p><p>Critique is NOTHING like censorship, and the moment we stop being allowed to call things out for being dangerous, wrong, or just plain disgusting, then we will truly lose all value from society.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Really? Because you LITERALLY just advocated that we shouldn't tell people not to do it again. How can it be an example of what not to do if we can't say "this was bad, don't do it?" Are we just supposed to hope that other people know that our silent acceptance means that it is wrong?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>THEN WHY ARE YOU BLEEPING TELLING ME I CAN'T COMMUNICATE!!!!!! You have taken the stance that telling people that they shouldn't do something, because it is wrong, is the exact same as censorship which leads to thought police, so I can't tell someone that I find what they did wrong and why I think that. </p><p></p><p>Doctor heal thyself!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8745723, member: 6801228"] Ah yes, I'd forgotten, in this new civilized world "mild critique" is code for "assassination attempt". Silly me, I should remember that expressing my opinion is the exact same as shooting someone with a bullet. Guess I'm going to jail for attempted murder now. Oh wait. Mild Critiques are still just mild critiques and NOT attempted assassinations? Whew. I guess I dodged that one. Also, weird if death threats against Salman Rushdie in 1988 stopped all artistic expression forever... how did my one of my favorite authors release a book this year? Wait, how have I been writing for the past two years? All artistic expression is suppressed isn't it? Because, you know, that was the argument that I was responding to. Or have you forgotten the actual point of the discussion in your rush to condemn me for the crimes you imagine I've committed? And some how I doubt this has anything to do with anything. Sure, sometimes society regresses. And then it doesn't. We tend to view things like "killed for their opinion" as bad still, so I don't think we are regressing as far back as we used to be. Then your point has absolutely NOTHING to do with my point or my rebuttal to the original argument. You are doing the equivalent of looking at 1+1=2 and saying "But what about the Circumference of the circle!" Of COURSE it isn't the only one. Some people hold the view that women are aliens. But just because a view is held doesn't mean it is valid, or that we can't call it out for being BS. You literally are just reversing course from what you said about Mein Kampf, our view that Hitler was wrong isn't the only view after all, but I don't think the majority of people would take that to mean that we can't call it what it is. Feel free to advocate for ethnic cleansings then. But me? I'm going to stand firmly on the side of saying "Hey, that's bad. Don't do that." Critique is NOTHING like censorship, and the moment we stop being allowed to call things out for being dangerous, wrong, or just plain disgusting, then we will truly lose all value from society. Really? Because you LITERALLY just advocated that we shouldn't tell people not to do it again. How can it be an example of what not to do if we can't say "this was bad, don't do it?" Are we just supposed to hope that other people know that our silent acceptance means that it is wrong? THEN WHY ARE YOU BLEEPING TELLING ME I CAN'T COMMUNICATE!!!!!! You have taken the stance that telling people that they shouldn't do something, because it is wrong, is the exact same as censorship which leads to thought police, so I can't tell someone that I find what they did wrong and why I think that. Doctor heal thyself! [/QUOTE]
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