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<blockquote data-quote="bestone" data-source="post: 3381382" data-attributes="member: 48880"><p>Ok, on the +2 int wis and charisma.</p><p></p><p>They wont age anymore. Usually mages in our group try to beg the dm to start off old for the stat bonuses. You get more int wis and charisma as you age, but as a lich you'll never age anymore. I think this is to represent what they would accumulate over time from aging.</p><p></p><p>If you actually reach venerable you'd end up getting +3 to int wis charisma.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And sure you can cast 5-6 9th level spells at 20, so can a sorcerer. But your spells at level 20 will be a lot more limited than his. And thats saying something.</p><p></p><p>I dont think there really is anything to suggest for epic progression, you become a lich, the whole class goal is fulfilled. You've been becomming one over 20 levels, your now one. I think you'll just have to multiclass, which kinda sucks.</p><p></p><p>Like I said, i've read the dread necro, and i play a dread necro at high levels.</p><p></p><p>And I think i'd rather make a cleric or wizard, and turn myself into a lich.</p><p></p><p>*btw, i'd think you would get the +3 level adjustment, as part of the package, its part of the template after all, if you apply the template, you'd probably apply this, thus that should balance it some, no?*</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bestone, post: 3381382, member: 48880"] Ok, on the +2 int wis and charisma. They wont age anymore. Usually mages in our group try to beg the dm to start off old for the stat bonuses. You get more int wis and charisma as you age, but as a lich you'll never age anymore. I think this is to represent what they would accumulate over time from aging. If you actually reach venerable you'd end up getting +3 to int wis charisma. And sure you can cast 5-6 9th level spells at 20, so can a sorcerer. But your spells at level 20 will be a lot more limited than his. And thats saying something. I dont think there really is anything to suggest for epic progression, you become a lich, the whole class goal is fulfilled. You've been becomming one over 20 levels, your now one. I think you'll just have to multiclass, which kinda sucks. Like I said, i've read the dread necro, and i play a dread necro at high levels. And I think i'd rather make a cleric or wizard, and turn myself into a lich. *btw, i'd think you would get the +3 level adjustment, as part of the package, its part of the template after all, if you apply the template, you'd probably apply this, thus that should balance it some, no?* [/QUOTE]
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