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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Zardoz" data-source="post: 5487150" data-attributes="member: 704"><p>Near TPK events in my games are something I enjoy. I actually like it when the players are looking carefully at their sheets trying to figure out a way to get through the fight alive. The only problem is when I am not expecting it to happen.</p><p></p><p>The goblin tower delve was run with a Warlord, a Monk, and a Swordmage. Considering it was short handed as a group, the near TPK did not surprise me at all in retrospect.</p><p></p><p>The Level 5 delve was run with a Druid, Monk, Ranger, and a Shaman, all 2 levels higher than the level of the delve. Both the Ranger and the Monk are multi-classed to cleric. (turns out that after 5 levels of nearly eating it every other encounter encouraged some multi-classing and taking utility powers that allow the use of a healing surge. After that, the new guy joined with a Shaman. Survival in general has since dramatically improved). Even short by one player, the amount of healing powers and being 2 levels higher then the monsters should have made things much easier.</p><p></p><p>Instead the Wights took down a few surges in the first room, and in the 2nd the Monk was rocked by the combination of 2 Chillborn Zombies with 3 Blazing Skeletons. The zombies were doing 10 aura damage (5 each cumulative), and immobilizing him while hitting him hard and inflicting 5 ongoing cold damage. Starting your turn taking 15 damage and being immobilized is the kind of brutal awesome I like as a DM. The 7th level party handled it. A 5th level party would not have, I think. By the time they reached the last room, the PC's did not have too much healing, and there was a necromancer that could add 1 skeletal minion per turn and use a burst 2 power that would heal the Zombie Hulk.</p><p></p><p>In any event, I like the book, but I am curious to see if anyone else has had a high TPK rate with it. My own DM'ing habits are brutal enough that I do not know how much of it is me and how much of it is the book.</p><p></p><p>END COMMUNICATION</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Zardoz, post: 5487150, member: 704"] Near TPK events in my games are something I enjoy. I actually like it when the players are looking carefully at their sheets trying to figure out a way to get through the fight alive. The only problem is when I am not expecting it to happen. The goblin tower delve was run with a Warlord, a Monk, and a Swordmage. Considering it was short handed as a group, the near TPK did not surprise me at all in retrospect. The Level 5 delve was run with a Druid, Monk, Ranger, and a Shaman, all 2 levels higher than the level of the delve. Both the Ranger and the Monk are multi-classed to cleric. (turns out that after 5 levels of nearly eating it every other encounter encouraged some multi-classing and taking utility powers that allow the use of a healing surge. After that, the new guy joined with a Shaman. Survival in general has since dramatically improved). Even short by one player, the amount of healing powers and being 2 levels higher then the monsters should have made things much easier. Instead the Wights took down a few surges in the first room, and in the 2nd the Monk was rocked by the combination of 2 Chillborn Zombies with 3 Blazing Skeletons. The zombies were doing 10 aura damage (5 each cumulative), and immobilizing him while hitting him hard and inflicting 5 ongoing cold damage. Starting your turn taking 15 damage and being immobilized is the kind of brutal awesome I like as a DM. The 7th level party handled it. A 5th level party would not have, I think. By the time they reached the last room, the PC's did not have too much healing, and there was a necromancer that could add 1 skeletal minion per turn and use a burst 2 power that would heal the Zombie Hulk. In any event, I like the book, but I am curious to see if anyone else has had a high TPK rate with it. My own DM'ing habits are brutal enough that I do not know how much of it is me and how much of it is the book. END COMMUNICATION [/QUOTE]
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