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<blockquote data-quote="Mark CMG" data-source="post: 5764516" data-attributes="member: 10479"><p>I think you hold a minority opinion regarding how much the OGL helped launch and perpetuate the sales of 3.XE. I think, regardless of the impression it made, if there was reasonable money to be made, the 4E GSL would have drawn companies (like GR, and Necro, and others) back to producing 3PP materials for 4E. I think companies like Goodman Games wouldn't be striving to produce their own DCC RPG if the 4E GSL was a reasonably viable model. I think Paizo might even have some 4E conversion and/or crossover material if the 4E GSL model meant making money. I think GR and others who use the OGL for other projects would adopt a model closer to the GSL than the OGL if it was a better model. I see no reason in the current market to believe that a 5E GSL would be a success. I do see precedent and current evidence in the current market that the OGL has been and continues to be a successful model particularly when coupled with an additional trademark license.</p><p></p><p>So, we're both looking at the same evidence of a little over a decade and you feel a 5E GSL (a slightly altered current GSL) would be a success and that a 5E OGL is a non-starter for WotC legal while I believe a 5E OGL has a chance of success in the market and that a 5E GSL seems like a non-starter for most 3PPs and unlikely to produce successful results. We might have to agree to disagree and just see how things play out.</p><p></p><p>Naturally, if what you are saying is that there could be a new license that removes some of the GSL restrictions and makes it closer to the OGL, then that would have to be seen to be discussed. You are the guy, afterall, who introduced the need for direct evidence for opinions to be proven into this discussion. So, fair enough, what exactly are you talking about when you claim a 5E GSL could work? What's removed from the current GSL? Or to come at it from the other direction, what restrictions would you add to the OGL? But let's not call it the OGL or the GSL since those names are taken and really only cause confusion. What would the Dausuul System License (DSL) look like and what evidence do you have that it would work?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark CMG, post: 5764516, member: 10479"] I think you hold a minority opinion regarding how much the OGL helped launch and perpetuate the sales of 3.XE. I think, regardless of the impression it made, if there was reasonable money to be made, the 4E GSL would have drawn companies (like GR, and Necro, and others) back to producing 3PP materials for 4E. I think companies like Goodman Games wouldn't be striving to produce their own DCC RPG if the 4E GSL was a reasonably viable model. I think Paizo might even have some 4E conversion and/or crossover material if the 4E GSL model meant making money. I think GR and others who use the OGL for other projects would adopt a model closer to the GSL than the OGL if it was a better model. I see no reason in the current market to believe that a 5E GSL would be a success. I do see precedent and current evidence in the current market that the OGL has been and continues to be a successful model particularly when coupled with an additional trademark license. So, we're both looking at the same evidence of a little over a decade and you feel a 5E GSL (a slightly altered current GSL) would be a success and that a 5E OGL is a non-starter for WotC legal while I believe a 5E OGL has a chance of success in the market and that a 5E GSL seems like a non-starter for most 3PPs and unlikely to produce successful results. We might have to agree to disagree and just see how things play out. Naturally, if what you are saying is that there could be a new license that removes some of the GSL restrictions and makes it closer to the OGL, then that would have to be seen to be discussed. You are the guy, afterall, who introduced the need for direct evidence for opinions to be proven into this discussion. So, fair enough, what exactly are you talking about when you claim a 5E GSL could work? What's removed from the current GSL? Or to come at it from the other direction, what restrictions would you add to the OGL? But let's not call it the OGL or the GSL since those names are taken and really only cause confusion. What would the Dausuul System License (DSL) look like and what evidence do you have that it would work? [/QUOTE]
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