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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3051967" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>While that may be true, you are still missing the main point which you yourself brought up. The creators of D&D put Isle of Dread in the box set for the Expert Rules. They didn't include a "stock" fantasy module with this hugely popular hobby that was in its infancy. They chucked standard fantasy straight out the window and included a module which had nothing to do with standard fantasy. And it was popular.</p><p></p><p>It's so popular that Paizo is resurecting it for the new Adventure Path. The other two AP's have hardly been stock fantasy as well. But, the fact that the most popular adventure series in years is now steering directly away from stock fantasy settings should tell you something.</p><p></p><p>Thirty (ish) years ago, Moldvay and co. decided that D&D should not be limited to dead authors. To say that WOTC is suddenly doing something different ignores the history of the game. There are module after module that are not stock fantasy, as well as modules that are. The non-stock fantasy modules have generally been very well received and are among the most enduring of the modules produced.</p><p></p><p>Honestly, the centaurs would be cool. The others not so much. Then again, we could go back to fat halflings that stay at home and smoke pipes. That's exciting isn't it?</p><p></p><p>Edit for later thought.</p><p></p><p>Looking at the list in Dungeon 116, the top 16 modules are:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now, of those 16 modules and series, we see how many that are not stock fantasy? GDQ has a giant mechanical spider among other things, I6 is horror, S1 definitly not stock fantasy, S3 had robots and lazers, I3-5 was set way outside standard fantasy, S2 definitely not stock fantasy, Planescape<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />ead Gods about as far from stock fantasy as you can get, X2 had dog men with French accents and then X1 is again about as far from stock fantasy as you can get.</p><p></p><p>9 of the top 16 are outside what you consider fantasy. Over half. From all periods of the game. The idea that D&D was ever about genre emulation is silly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3051967, member: 22779"] While that may be true, you are still missing the main point which you yourself brought up. The creators of D&D put Isle of Dread in the box set for the Expert Rules. They didn't include a "stock" fantasy module with this hugely popular hobby that was in its infancy. They chucked standard fantasy straight out the window and included a module which had nothing to do with standard fantasy. And it was popular. It's so popular that Paizo is resurecting it for the new Adventure Path. The other two AP's have hardly been stock fantasy as well. But, the fact that the most popular adventure series in years is now steering directly away from stock fantasy settings should tell you something. Thirty (ish) years ago, Moldvay and co. decided that D&D should not be limited to dead authors. To say that WOTC is suddenly doing something different ignores the history of the game. There are module after module that are not stock fantasy, as well as modules that are. The non-stock fantasy modules have generally been very well received and are among the most enduring of the modules produced. Honestly, the centaurs would be cool. The others not so much. Then again, we could go back to fat halflings that stay at home and smoke pipes. That's exciting isn't it? Edit for later thought. Looking at the list in Dungeon 116, the top 16 modules are: Now, of those 16 modules and series, we see how many that are not stock fantasy? GDQ has a giant mechanical spider among other things, I6 is horror, S1 definitly not stock fantasy, S3 had robots and lazers, I3-5 was set way outside standard fantasy, S2 definitely not stock fantasy, Planescape:Dead Gods about as far from stock fantasy as you can get, X2 had dog men with French accents and then X1 is again about as far from stock fantasy as you can get. 9 of the top 16 are outside what you consider fantasy. Over half. From all periods of the game. The idea that D&D was ever about genre emulation is silly. [/QUOTE]
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