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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 5937231" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>Except that they can't, ever.</p><p></p><p>Elminster is built with a whole bunch of specialised templates and rules exceptions such that it is <em>impossible</em> for a character to start at 1st level RAW and advance to match him.</p><p></p><p>Likewise, while Han Solo is typically presented in such a manner as to be <em>technically</em> rules-legal, his stats are so incredibly high that you would need to use random rolls <em>and cheat</em> to have a hope of matching him. Under the recommended chargen method from the books (and, incidentally, the required method for organised play), it is not possible to generate a "1st level Han".</p><p></p><p>The iconic characters in these settings are out of reach for PCs in the games intended to replicate their adventures.</p><p></p><p>But anyway...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My big objection is not so much the existence of those high-level NPCs. It's that the text I quoted makes it clear that <em>whatever they do</em>, the PCs are largely irrelevant.</p><p></p><p>They saved the village? Why, if it weren't for Elminster, there wouldn't even be a village to save!</p><p></p><p>In fact, the only reason there are even adventures for the PCs to have is that the problems they solve are not important enough for Elminster to bother with.</p><p></p><p>It makes the PCs sidekicks in their own story. As I said, <em>that text</em> has no business being anywhere near a 5e Realms book.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 5937231, member: 22424"] Except that they can't, ever. Elminster is built with a whole bunch of specialised templates and rules exceptions such that it is [i]impossible[/i] for a character to start at 1st level RAW and advance to match him. Likewise, while Han Solo is typically presented in such a manner as to be [i]technically[/i] rules-legal, his stats are so incredibly high that you would need to use random rolls [i]and cheat[/i] to have a hope of matching him. Under the recommended chargen method from the books (and, incidentally, the required method for organised play), it is not possible to generate a "1st level Han". The iconic characters in these settings are out of reach for PCs in the games intended to replicate their adventures. But anyway... My big objection is not so much the existence of those high-level NPCs. It's that the text I quoted makes it clear that [i]whatever they do[/i], the PCs are largely irrelevant. They saved the village? Why, if it weren't for Elminster, there wouldn't even be a village to save! In fact, the only reason there are even adventures for the PCs to have is that the problems they solve are not important enough for Elminster to bother with. It makes the PCs sidekicks in their own story. As I said, [i]that text[/i] has no business being anywhere near a 5e Realms book. [/QUOTE]
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