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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7000000" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>That's still the exception to the rule. You didn't mention the Underdark, and you even talked about NPCs. </p><p></p><p>Besides, even if "most" underdark creatures had 90 ft or 120 ft darkvision (a claim I find dubious), it still wouldn't mean you couldn't play a sneaky rogue. </p><p></p><p>Even if you stumble upon a completely darkened outpost manned by Drow (say), and are discovered, you can still hide and do your thing. And I'm saying that as a DM that has run Out of the Abyss.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, that's a discussion for another topic. You certainly don't have to worry about the 120 ft darkvision of select monsters to choose the Rogue class. </p><p></p><p>What you do need to worry about (as a DM) is the relative ease with which a group of players can form a darkvision-only party. In other words, the OPs complaint. </p><p></p><p>Sure there are many ways to ameliorate this. My preferred tweak is to focus on elves (and half-elves) only: to me that's a very simple, very unintrusive tweak that more or less fixes the issue completely <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 7000000, member: 12731"] That's still the exception to the rule. You didn't mention the Underdark, and you even talked about NPCs. Besides, even if "most" underdark creatures had 90 ft or 120 ft darkvision (a claim I find dubious), it still wouldn't mean you couldn't play a sneaky rogue. Even if you stumble upon a completely darkened outpost manned by Drow (say), and are discovered, you can still hide and do your thing. And I'm saying that as a DM that has run Out of the Abyss. Anyway, that's a discussion for another topic. You certainly don't have to worry about the 120 ft darkvision of select monsters to choose the Rogue class. What you do need to worry about (as a DM) is the relative ease with which a group of players can form a darkvision-only party. In other words, the OPs complaint. Sure there are many ways to ameliorate this. My preferred tweak is to focus on elves (and half-elves) only: to me that's a very simple, very unintrusive tweak that more or less fixes the issue completely :) [/QUOTE]
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