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<blockquote data-quote="ValhallaGH" data-source="post: 3044583" data-attributes="member: 41187"><p>The issue I have with the Search approach is that if you also delete Trapfinding (which I have) then Rangers are now the best trap finders, which doesn't mesh with the Rogue's archetype.</p><p></p><p>As I said, Rangers get Skill Focus (Survival) at first level in place of the non-existant Track feat.</p><p>Tracking no longer requires a feat.</p><p></p><p>Rangers are now better in the wilderness than most folk. They are also better trackers than most people of equal training (Barbarians, Druids, Scouts, etc). Anyone can match a Ranger by investing a precious Feat into the attempt but that shows a level of dedication rare outside of certain specific character concepts.</p><p>Similar balance to the current setup, with Rangers actually better than other classes.</p><p></p><p>Now, if you feel that tracking is too easy then go right ahead and start jacking up DCs. Adding a flat amount to the base terrain DC is the place to start, though you can monkey with the various modifiers as well.</p><p></p><p>Not that tracking is particularly powerful. Monsters as low as CR 4 (Barghest) have <em>pass without trace</em> at will and any druid of 3rd level or higher can't be tracked through a natural environment. I don't see much point in making tracking an even less productive investment of character resources but apparently I "just don't get it" when it comes to D&D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ValhallaGH, post: 3044583, member: 41187"] The issue I have with the Search approach is that if you also delete Trapfinding (which I have) then Rangers are now the best trap finders, which doesn't mesh with the Rogue's archetype. As I said, Rangers get Skill Focus (Survival) at first level in place of the non-existant Track feat. Tracking no longer requires a feat. Rangers are now better in the wilderness than most folk. They are also better trackers than most people of equal training (Barbarians, Druids, Scouts, etc). Anyone can match a Ranger by investing a precious Feat into the attempt but that shows a level of dedication rare outside of certain specific character concepts. Similar balance to the current setup, with Rangers actually better than other classes. Now, if you feel that tracking is too easy then go right ahead and start jacking up DCs. Adding a flat amount to the base terrain DC is the place to start, though you can monkey with the various modifiers as well. Not that tracking is particularly powerful. Monsters as low as CR 4 (Barghest) have [i]pass without trace[/i] at will and any druid of 3rd level or higher can't be tracked through a natural environment. I don't see much point in making tracking an even less productive investment of character resources but apparently I "just don't get it" when it comes to D&D. [/QUOTE]
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