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<blockquote data-quote="Desh-Rae-Halra" data-source="post: 7708869" data-attributes="member: 81852"><p>An Update from Spidermind Games to KS Backers:</p><p> <table style='width: 100%'><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td></td></tr></table><p></p><p> Dear All,</p><p> Apparently the first attempt to send you a message, on Friday, didn’t get sent by KS so here is a second attempt.</p><p> Please accept our apologies for the suspension of the Kickstarter campaign. For those of you who do not know, Kickstarter was served with a copyright infringement notice on Friday afternoon by three individuals - Chris Jordan, Judith Jordan & David Johnson-Davies, together operating as ‘Ian Bell Elite Rights LLP’.</p><p> For the avoidance of doubt, we are in possession of a license from the owners of the Elite: Dangerous franchise, Frontier Developments Plc and we have received full support from them throughout this bogus claim.</p><p> The details of the alleged infringement are as follows:</p><p> Re: Elite: Dangerous Role Playing Game (ED RPG) </p><p> Description of copyrighted material: "Elite", the game developed by Ian Bell and David Braben, first published in 1984. </p><p> Description of infringing material: "Elite Dangerous Role Playing Game" books.</p><p> No further detail was enclosed or attached to the email.</p><p> Firstly: Having taken legal advice we have been informed that it is incumbent on any complaining party (in this case the Ian Bell Elite Rights LLP) to provide ‘substantially’ information which is ‘reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to locate the material’.</p><p> Just saying that ‘Books’ infringe copyright, especially when these books have not yet been produced, is not specific enough for us to know what they are on about.</p><p> Secondly: If this is an issue about a general, nonspecific copyright from an original game that is being used by us, under license from Frontier, then isn’t the issue with Frontier and not us? Frontier have offered these people several opportunities to discuss the issues but they have refused to engage with them.</p><p> There have been various Kickstarter projects run by License holders, such as many of the novels that came out around the same time as ED was kick-started itself and yet none of those were closed down by suspended by Kickstarter. </p><p> It is the belief of Spidermind Games that Chris Jordan, Judith Jordan & David Johnson-Davies have engaged in a vexatious claim against us for the sole purpose of causing us financial and reputational harm.</p><p> Whilst this might be the case we are working closely with Frontier Developments and their lawyers to provide Kickstarter with evidence to prove beyond doubt that we are legitimately exploiting the name Elite Dangerous and associated assets, under license, from the legitimate copyright owner Frontier Developments Plc.</p><p> As soon as we receive an update from Kickstarter regarding this issue, we will let you know.</p><p> Thank you for your patience and continued support.</p><p> Kind regards</p><p> Jon Lunn </p><p>Producer </p><p>EDRPG</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Desh-Rae-Halra, post: 7708869, member: 81852"] An Update from Spidermind Games to KS Backers: [TABLE="class: MsoNormalTable, width: 100"] [TR] [/TR] [TR] [/TR] [TR] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Dear All, Apparently the first attempt to send you a message, on Friday, didn’t get sent by KS so here is a second attempt. Please accept our apologies for the suspension of the Kickstarter campaign. For those of you who do not know, Kickstarter was served with a copyright infringement notice on Friday afternoon by three individuals - Chris Jordan, Judith Jordan & David Johnson-Davies, together operating as ‘Ian Bell Elite Rights LLP’. For the avoidance of doubt, we are in possession of a license from the owners of the Elite: Dangerous franchise, Frontier Developments Plc and we have received full support from them throughout this bogus claim. The details of the alleged infringement are as follows: Re: Elite: Dangerous Role Playing Game (ED RPG) Description of copyrighted material: "Elite", the game developed by Ian Bell and David Braben, first published in 1984. Description of infringing material: "Elite Dangerous Role Playing Game" books. No further detail was enclosed or attached to the email. Firstly: Having taken legal advice we have been informed that it is incumbent on any complaining party (in this case the Ian Bell Elite Rights LLP) to provide ‘substantially’ information which is ‘reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to locate the material’. Just saying that ‘Books’ infringe copyright, especially when these books have not yet been produced, is not specific enough for us to know what they are on about. Secondly: If this is an issue about a general, nonspecific copyright from an original game that is being used by us, under license from Frontier, then isn’t the issue with Frontier and not us? Frontier have offered these people several opportunities to discuss the issues but they have refused to engage with them. There have been various Kickstarter projects run by License holders, such as many of the novels that came out around the same time as ED was kick-started itself and yet none of those were closed down by suspended by Kickstarter. It is the belief of Spidermind Games that Chris Jordan, Judith Jordan & David Johnson-Davies have engaged in a vexatious claim against us for the sole purpose of causing us financial and reputational harm. Whilst this might be the case we are working closely with Frontier Developments and their lawyers to provide Kickstarter with evidence to prove beyond doubt that we are legitimately exploiting the name Elite Dangerous and associated assets, under license, from the legitimate copyright owner Frontier Developments Plc. As soon as we receive an update from Kickstarter regarding this issue, we will let you know. Thank you for your patience and continued support. Kind regards Jon Lunn Producer EDRPG [/QUOTE]
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