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<blockquote data-quote="Elderbrain" data-source="post: 7433649"><p>The rules for gods in 5th edition are given in a sidebar in the DMG. Per the rules there, demigods can't grant divine spells and don't have clerics, so that Valkur (for instance) would receive a "promotion" in 5e to a lesser god. Lesser gods have physical bodies that can be slain by mortals, but if they die anywhere other than their home plane, they merely discorporate and reform in their divine realm (thus, if the heroes killed Tiamat when she was trying to enter Faerun, she didn't die for good.) As far as I can tell, lesser gods don't get avatars. Greater deities can form physical bodies equivalent to that of a lesser god, called an avatar, but slaying the avatar anywhere has no effect on the greater god. Also, since Tiamat was classed as a Fiend, I would class any non-evil deity as a Celestial, in game terms. Nor would Valkur's form count as an avatar, and his divine rank of 3 seems to reference the 3e rules, which wouldn't apply here. But that's my take.</p><p></p><p>To convert the rank of a god from previous editions into 5e, I suggest the following: Demigods and Lesser gods = Lesser god in 5e. Intermediate and Greater gods = Greater god in 5e. Also, in the DMG under the Artifacts section it mentions using an Empyrean to represent a deity/avatar - handy if (like most gods) the deity is shaped like a humanoid and you don't have time to cook up god stats on the fly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elderbrain, post: 7433649"] The rules for gods in 5th edition are given in a sidebar in the DMG. Per the rules there, demigods can't grant divine spells and don't have clerics, so that Valkur (for instance) would receive a "promotion" in 5e to a lesser god. Lesser gods have physical bodies that can be slain by mortals, but if they die anywhere other than their home plane, they merely discorporate and reform in their divine realm (thus, if the heroes killed Tiamat when she was trying to enter Faerun, she didn't die for good.) As far as I can tell, lesser gods don't get avatars. Greater deities can form physical bodies equivalent to that of a lesser god, called an avatar, but slaying the avatar anywhere has no effect on the greater god. Also, since Tiamat was classed as a Fiend, I would class any non-evil deity as a Celestial, in game terms. Nor would Valkur's form count as an avatar, and his divine rank of 3 seems to reference the 3e rules, which wouldn't apply here. But that's my take. To convert the rank of a god from previous editions into 5e, I suggest the following: Demigods and Lesser gods = Lesser god in 5e. Intermediate and Greater gods = Greater god in 5e. Also, in the DMG under the Artifacts section it mentions using an Empyrean to represent a deity/avatar - handy if (like most gods) the deity is shaped like a humanoid and you don't have time to cook up god stats on the fly. [/QUOTE]
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