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<blockquote data-quote="Hawkeye" data-source="post: 1096013" data-attributes="member: 9200"><p></p></blockquote><p>I am (in general) enjoying this thread very much, not because I think that anything paranormal in here is real, but because the human reactions, and the understanding of how we process the signals our senses give us in our brain is incredibly fascinating. When I was getting my astronomy degree at Villanova, the local police would route UFO calls to the astronomy department (I don't know if it was because they liked us, or didn't like us) and some of us did our best to help people figure out what they had seen. I'd recommend the books of Phillip Klass to anyone curious about this topic.</p><p></p><p> I only write now as Hawkeye's comments touch on my profession.</p><p></p><p>Harry, Ph.D., Physics[/QUOTE]</p><p></p><p></p><p>Blessed are they that have never seen, but beleive. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> </p><p>I don't automatically think that everything I have seen or heard over the years deals with the paranormal. If I see something strange in the night sky, I don't leap to conclusions an immediately thinking its little grey men in a space ship coming to pay us a visit. I look for other logical explanations before saying that there is a good chance that it is some form of UFO. If those don't pan out, then it must be unknown and needs to be investigated. When I found the first cold spot in that former office. I noted the location of all the air conditioning/heating grills. Then I turned off the AC system waited 30 mins and then walked back to the same exact spot and the temp hadn't changed in that spot, though the rest of the building was warm.</p><p></p><p> I would agree that 99% of the strange stuff in this world has a real world answer, but enough things that don't fit our current understanding of the universe happen on a regular basis, that something is going on. Not everyone who sees a UFO, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster, Ghosts, etc... is lying, hallucinating, being tricked by light or someone else.</p><p></p><p>Despite all of our scientific knowledge, there is still much about the universe we don't understand. There is much about our planet we don't understand. It is quite possible that we don't have the technology to properly measure such things as Psychic abilites or ghosts. At one time we didn't know about Quasars, Pulsars, Black holes etc.. until we had the right tools to find them. Atoms were a theory before they could be proven. We had to have the right tools to do that. I think we will one day have the proper tools to investigate these phonomena properly and will be able to fit them into our Newtonian/Einsteinian view of the universe. After all, in an infinite universe, isn't anything possible?</p><p></p><p>BTW: I beleive the Philip Klass was on the government payroll to debunk anything that related to UFOs. The government did this for National Security reasons to keep the public from panicking that there were strange aircraft in USA airspace that the Air Force couldn't account for. This was during the Cold War. It makes sense from that perspective. (And let me tell you some time about my conversations with Kevin J Randle, famed writer of books about the Roswell indicent and a couple of Playboy playmates at a con a few years ago on UFOS. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />) He wasn't for balanced investigations, but outright debunking. If a UFO landed on the Whitehouse lawn, he probably would be among the first to say that it didn't happen. </p><p></p><p>Hawkeye</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Hawkeye, post: 1096013, member: 9200"] [/QUOTE]I am (in general) enjoying this thread very much, not because I think that anything paranormal in here is real, but because the human reactions, and the understanding of how we process the signals our senses give us in our brain is incredibly fascinating. When I was getting my astronomy degree at Villanova, the local police would route UFO calls to the astronomy department (I don't know if it was because they liked us, or didn't like us) and some of us did our best to help people figure out what they had seen. I'd recommend the books of Phillip Klass to anyone curious about this topic. I only write now as Hawkeye's comments touch on my profession. Harry, Ph.D., Physics[/QUOTE] Blessed are they that have never seen, but beleive. :p I don't automatically think that everything I have seen or heard over the years deals with the paranormal. If I see something strange in the night sky, I don't leap to conclusions an immediately thinking its little grey men in a space ship coming to pay us a visit. I look for other logical explanations before saying that there is a good chance that it is some form of UFO. If those don't pan out, then it must be unknown and needs to be investigated. When I found the first cold spot in that former office. I noted the location of all the air conditioning/heating grills. Then I turned off the AC system waited 30 mins and then walked back to the same exact spot and the temp hadn't changed in that spot, though the rest of the building was warm. I would agree that 99% of the strange stuff in this world has a real world answer, but enough things that don't fit our current understanding of the universe happen on a regular basis, that something is going on. Not everyone who sees a UFO, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster, Ghosts, etc... is lying, hallucinating, being tricked by light or someone else. Despite all of our scientific knowledge, there is still much about the universe we don't understand. There is much about our planet we don't understand. It is quite possible that we don't have the technology to properly measure such things as Psychic abilites or ghosts. At one time we didn't know about Quasars, Pulsars, Black holes etc.. until we had the right tools to find them. Atoms were a theory before they could be proven. We had to have the right tools to do that. I think we will one day have the proper tools to investigate these phonomena properly and will be able to fit them into our Newtonian/Einsteinian view of the universe. After all, in an infinite universe, isn't anything possible? BTW: I beleive the Philip Klass was on the government payroll to debunk anything that related to UFOs. The government did this for National Security reasons to keep the public from panicking that there were strange aircraft in USA airspace that the Air Force couldn't account for. This was during the Cold War. It makes sense from that perspective. (And let me tell you some time about my conversations with Kevin J Randle, famed writer of books about the Roswell indicent and a couple of Playboy playmates at a con a few years ago on UFOS. :D) He wasn't for balanced investigations, but outright debunking. If a UFO landed on the Whitehouse lawn, he probably would be among the first to say that it didn't happen. Hawkeye [/QUOTE]
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