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<blockquote data-quote="Hawkeye" data-source="post: 1099603" data-attributes="member: 9200"><p>Ah, so we are only 1% apart! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>And since the difference between 0 and 1 is an infinity, we can either never agree on anything, or in an infinite universe, we are the same person, with a multiple personality disorder, arguing with ourself(ves) on this messageboard. :b </p><p></p><p>You can believe what you want, and make whatever personal insinuations about him that you want, but that does not affect at all the strength of his reasoning. A much better source for exposing Randle's sloppy, sensationalistic approach would be Kal Korff's book "The Roswell UFO Crash"</p><p></p><p>I have read both. I don't think the entire story is known on Roswell and will probably be more mundane when the full truth is out. The main problem is, that the government keeps changing its story. I am not doubting Klass' intelligecne, education or dedication. I think he was doing the job he was hired to do so. Sometimes it seems to the point that he automatically debunked things as almost a knee jerk reaction.</p><p></p><p>Also, during the Cold War, the USSR did commonly use aircraft to test US air defense, flying at US territory until discovered and ordered out. Some of these flights got embarrasingly deep; it would be in the US government's best interests to have these seen as "UFO's - mebbe aliens" than air defense holes. In fact, some of the most famous UFO cases were Soviet planes. (I can only assume the US was doing the same thing.)</p><p></p><p>I agree. The US was doing the same thing. Last figure I heard there were like 150 US pilots that never came back from "training" missions that involved over flights of the Soviet Union. </p><p></p><p>Please examine this page for the largest scientific study on UFO's:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://ncas.sawco.com/condon/index.html" target="_blank">http://ncas.sawco.com/condon/index.html</a></p><p></p><p>Its probably the largest official, pubically known study, but I think NICAP or MUFON's ongoing scientific study of the phenomena might be the largest. I know of this study. Its 35+ years old. Isn't it possible in that time that advances in technology and our understanding of the Universe might bring a different conclusion upon re-examination of the evidence? Isn't reproducability of a study or experiment the hallmark of science? That evidence needs to be reviewed, though since its based mostly on eye-witness reports and we all know how fallible we all are. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> the conclusions would be either the same or inconclusive. I would like to see a new study, just like this with federal backing. Of course, fantatics on both sides of the question would attack the results. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /> </p><p></p><p>Hawkeye</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hawkeye, post: 1099603, member: 9200"] Ah, so we are only 1% apart! :) And since the difference between 0 and 1 is an infinity, we can either never agree on anything, or in an infinite universe, we are the same person, with a multiple personality disorder, arguing with ourself(ves) on this messageboard. :b You can believe what you want, and make whatever personal insinuations about him that you want, but that does not affect at all the strength of his reasoning. A much better source for exposing Randle's sloppy, sensationalistic approach would be Kal Korff's book "The Roswell UFO Crash" I have read both. I don't think the entire story is known on Roswell and will probably be more mundane when the full truth is out. The main problem is, that the government keeps changing its story. I am not doubting Klass' intelligecne, education or dedication. I think he was doing the job he was hired to do so. Sometimes it seems to the point that he automatically debunked things as almost a knee jerk reaction. Also, during the Cold War, the USSR did commonly use aircraft to test US air defense, flying at US territory until discovered and ordered out. Some of these flights got embarrasingly deep; it would be in the US government's best interests to have these seen as "UFO's - mebbe aliens" than air defense holes. In fact, some of the most famous UFO cases were Soviet planes. (I can only assume the US was doing the same thing.) I agree. The US was doing the same thing. Last figure I heard there were like 150 US pilots that never came back from "training" missions that involved over flights of the Soviet Union. Please examine this page for the largest scientific study on UFO's: [url]http://ncas.sawco.com/condon/index.html[/url] Its probably the largest official, pubically known study, but I think NICAP or MUFON's ongoing scientific study of the phenomena might be the largest. I know of this study. Its 35+ years old. Isn't it possible in that time that advances in technology and our understanding of the Universe might bring a different conclusion upon re-examination of the evidence? Isn't reproducability of a study or experiment the hallmark of science? That evidence needs to be reviewed, though since its based mostly on eye-witness reports and we all know how fallible we all are. :p the conclusions would be either the same or inconclusive. I would like to see a new study, just like this with federal backing. Of course, fantatics on both sides of the question would attack the results. :( Hawkeye [/QUOTE]
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