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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Harry" data-source="post: 1102812" data-attributes="member: 5468"><p>Re: Kevin Randle, UFO publicist, and also Kal Korff's book "The Roswell UFO Crash"</p><p> </p><p></p><p>There were several difficulties to getting the "full" Roswell story.</p><p></p><p>1) The first interviews for the first book were conducted in 1978 - more that 30 years after the event alledgedly took place.</p><p></p><p>2) What evidence was available to the general public showed that the primary Roswell "witness" (former Major Jesse Marcel) has a difficult time telling the unvarnished truth.</p><p></p><p>3) Officers at Roswell AAFB were able to recognize the remnants of weather balloons and radar reflectors, but the U.S. government denied that any balloons had been released. This was because the source of the debris (project MOGUL) was classified due to its nature. Project MOGUL was part of a project for spying on the Soviet Union. High altitude reconnasaince was conducted by releasing a series of balloons with radar reflectors and material that would show traces of the particles that would result from a Soviet nuclear test. The balloons would be launched from western Europe and recovered in the Pacific. This confusion could not be cleared up until recently, when the U.S. government declassified the material.</p><p></p><p>4) Due to the long time lag, there is substantial evidence that the dating of other events has become confused as several "witnesses" associate events that demonstrably took place at other times with the Roswell event. The Air Force report can be obtained through:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.af.mil/lib/roswell/" target="_blank">http://www.af.mil/lib/roswell/</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are not doubting his intelligence, education, or dedication, but you are making a serious slam against his integrity. Still, this does not affect his actual arguments. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A scientific study must be published, and it must be made available for review by qualified individuals. In this sense, NICAP & MUFON have simply been gathering data.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is nothing to suggest that the results would be any different in form: Any event that allowed reasonable examination showed no evidence of alien activity. (That does seem to be the conclusion of your next paragraph, to be fair.) The changes in our understanding of the universe have made the alien hypothesis less likely, not more likely.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The difficulty, of course, comes from finding funds for such a study. The previous examinations of this material have been negative enough that I do not know of a professional who wants to spend his/her valuable research time on a question that seems to have so little prospect.</p><p></p><p> Dr. Harry, Astronomer at large</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr. Harry, post: 1102812, member: 5468"] Re: Kevin Randle, UFO publicist, and also Kal Korff's book "The Roswell UFO Crash" There were several difficulties to getting the "full" Roswell story. 1) The first interviews for the first book were conducted in 1978 - more that 30 years after the event alledgedly took place. 2) What evidence was available to the general public showed that the primary Roswell "witness" (former Major Jesse Marcel) has a difficult time telling the unvarnished truth. 3) Officers at Roswell AAFB were able to recognize the remnants of weather balloons and radar reflectors, but the U.S. government denied that any balloons had been released. This was because the source of the debris (project MOGUL) was classified due to its nature. Project MOGUL was part of a project for spying on the Soviet Union. High altitude reconnasaince was conducted by releasing a series of balloons with radar reflectors and material that would show traces of the particles that would result from a Soviet nuclear test. The balloons would be launched from western Europe and recovered in the Pacific. This confusion could not be cleared up until recently, when the U.S. government declassified the material. 4) Due to the long time lag, there is substantial evidence that the dating of other events has become confused as several "witnesses" associate events that demonstrably took place at other times with the Roswell event. The Air Force report can be obtained through: [url]http://www.af.mil/lib/roswell/[/url] You are not doubting his intelligence, education, or dedication, but you are making a serious slam against his integrity. Still, this does not affect his actual arguments. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. A scientific study must be published, and it must be made available for review by qualified individuals. In this sense, NICAP & MUFON have simply been gathering data. There is nothing to suggest that the results would be any different in form: Any event that allowed reasonable examination showed no evidence of alien activity. (That does seem to be the conclusion of your next paragraph, to be fair.) The changes in our understanding of the universe have made the alien hypothesis less likely, not more likely. The difficulty, of course, comes from finding funds for such a study. The previous examinations of this material have been negative enough that I do not know of a professional who wants to spend his/her valuable research time on a question that seems to have so little prospect. Dr. Harry, Astronomer at large [/QUOTE]
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