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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8695189" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>Agreed, but again I think this is factor of knowledge. Against a well prepared party that knows Vecna's lair actions, they could shut it down at the onset. But even one round of those shadows is a big deal, its a non-zero chance of just wiping out a party member, or the DM could just target the strength fighter and soften up their offense against Vecna.</p><p></p><p>Realistically though I would expect a 20th level party to shut down each trick that gets thrown at them one by one, it will get them for a 1 round or 2, but then they counter. But that is probably all a villain like vecna needs, I mean Vecna seems quite capable of killing 20th level PCs himself in 1-2 rounds. There were a few times when vecna used spells himself and I was like, "honestly I wonder if him just using the Rotten Fate + double afterlife combo wouldn't have been better, do to his saving throws being so high it is REALLY hard for certain PCs to resist Rotten Fate)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 8695189, member: 5889"] Agreed, but again I think this is factor of knowledge. Against a well prepared party that knows Vecna's lair actions, they could shut it down at the onset. But even one round of those shadows is a big deal, its a non-zero chance of just wiping out a party member, or the DM could just target the strength fighter and soften up their offense against Vecna. Realistically though I would expect a 20th level party to shut down each trick that gets thrown at them one by one, it will get them for a 1 round or 2, but then they counter. But that is probably all a villain like vecna needs, I mean Vecna seems quite capable of killing 20th level PCs himself in 1-2 rounds. There were a few times when vecna used spells himself and I was like, "honestly I wonder if him just using the Rotten Fate + double afterlife combo wouldn't have been better, do to his saving throws being so high it is REALLY hard for certain PCs to resist Rotten Fate) [/QUOTE]
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