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<blockquote data-quote="JohnLynch" data-source="post: 6752057" data-attributes="member: 6749563"><p>I do love this about 5th edition, however this book does have a few missteps.</p><p></p><p>Gray Dwarves: The flavour of these are essentially dwarven drow (evil Underdark race that enslaves other creatures and are hated by their surface kin. Not really opening up any new character concepts here.</p><p></p><p>Path of the Battlerager doesn't really enable new character concepts. Dwarven barbarians can easily be represented by Beserker barbarians. This is simply different mechanics for the same character concept. This is something 5th edition has worked hard to avoid and it's disappointing to see WotC cave in now.</p><p></p><p>Oath of the Crown is also thematically very similar to the oath of devotion. However the one saving grace is that where the devotion paladin is a striker/leader the crown paladin is a defender/leader (if you can forgive the 4th ed terms).</p><p></p><p>Purple Knights are quite disappointing as the mechanics could match any knightly order, rather than just the Purple Knights. The enforced flavour to justify them being purple knights is better suited in a background, not a class feature. </p><p></p><p>That said, 1 misstep out of 5 are variant racial options and 2 missteps out of 12 subrace options are not bad considering the scarce page count the mechanics actually take up (as opposed to the flavour writeup each class gets). It does make a bad first impression though (it was only in writing this post that I realized the mechanics weren't as bad as I first thought.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JohnLynch, post: 6752057, member: 6749563"] I do love this about 5th edition, however this book does have a few missteps. Gray Dwarves: The flavour of these are essentially dwarven drow (evil Underdark race that enslaves other creatures and are hated by their surface kin. Not really opening up any new character concepts here. Path of the Battlerager doesn't really enable new character concepts. Dwarven barbarians can easily be represented by Beserker barbarians. This is simply different mechanics for the same character concept. This is something 5th edition has worked hard to avoid and it's disappointing to see WotC cave in now. Oath of the Crown is also thematically very similar to the oath of devotion. However the one saving grace is that where the devotion paladin is a striker/leader the crown paladin is a defender/leader (if you can forgive the 4th ed terms). Purple Knights are quite disappointing as the mechanics could match any knightly order, rather than just the Purple Knights. The enforced flavour to justify them being purple knights is better suited in a background, not a class feature. That said, 1 misstep out of 5 are variant racial options and 2 missteps out of 12 subrace options are not bad considering the scarce page count the mechanics actually take up (as opposed to the flavour writeup each class gets). It does make a bad first impression though (it was only in writing this post that I realized the mechanics weren't as bad as I first thought. [/QUOTE]
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