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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 6203195" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>Eh... based upon how you structured your original idea-- the two axis of brains versus brawn and self action versus granted action... adding in another point just for "nature based" goes against everything you put forth.</p><p></p><p>Because let's be clear here... Druids, Barbarians, Rangers, Wardens, and Shaman COULD all be <em>one class</em>. Just like the Cleric.</p><p></p><p>The Cleric encompasses all different types and styles of character-- entirely based around the god they have chosen to follow. Melee types, ranged weapon types, skill-based types, magic types, defender types, slayer types etc. etc. The only connection all these different types of characters have is that their abilities are granted and/or heightened by divine influence.</p><p></p><p>By the same token... if you were to pluck out "divine influence" and replace it with "nature" (and the different types of nature having various influences and "domains")... you could subsume all those other classes into a single one. The "barbarian domain" is like the cleric's Storm domain. The "shaman domain" is like the cleric's Life domain. The "druid domain" is like the Cleric's Magic domain. The "ranger domain" is like the cleric's Trickery domain.</p><p></p><p>So if you're going to give "being nature-based!" the same standing you are giving what is the baseline influence of the the cleric... then really all the spokes off the cleric shouldn't be new classes... but rather just the domains of the cleric. Because the spokes off of "divine influence" are those domains, just like the spokes off of "nature's influence" have been designated as full classes (when in actuality, if we're using the cleric as a mirror... they probably shouldn't.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 6203195, member: 7006"] Eh... based upon how you structured your original idea-- the two axis of brains versus brawn and self action versus granted action... adding in another point just for "nature based" goes against everything you put forth. Because let's be clear here... Druids, Barbarians, Rangers, Wardens, and Shaman COULD all be [I]one class[/I]. Just like the Cleric. The Cleric encompasses all different types and styles of character-- entirely based around the god they have chosen to follow. Melee types, ranged weapon types, skill-based types, magic types, defender types, slayer types etc. etc. The only connection all these different types of characters have is that their abilities are granted and/or heightened by divine influence. By the same token... if you were to pluck out "divine influence" and replace it with "nature" (and the different types of nature having various influences and "domains")... you could subsume all those other classes into a single one. The "barbarian domain" is like the cleric's Storm domain. The "shaman domain" is like the cleric's Life domain. The "druid domain" is like the Cleric's Magic domain. The "ranger domain" is like the cleric's Trickery domain. So if you're going to give "being nature-based!" the same standing you are giving what is the baseline influence of the the cleric... then really all the spokes off the cleric shouldn't be new classes... but rather just the domains of the cleric. Because the spokes off of "divine influence" are those domains, just like the spokes off of "nature's influence" have been designated as full classes (when in actuality, if we're using the cleric as a mirror... they probably shouldn't.) [/QUOTE]
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