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<blockquote data-quote="JEB" data-source="post: 9289722" data-attributes="member: 10148"><p>Second-to-last post in the series: an analysis of the new core monsters in 4e's Monster Vault.</p><p></p><p>Core in MV and 5e: Thug, swarm of poisonous snakes. (Thugs had also been core in 2e, but not since.)</p><p></p><p>Non-core in 5e:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ambush drake: 4e (like Basic D&D before it) really tried to make drakes a thing, but not many of them moved forward to 5e. One exception was the ambush drake. Notably, it was one of the first non-core conversions to 5e, appearing way back in the Tyranny of Dragons duology.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Neo-otyugh: These AD&D creatures hadn't appeared since 2e; presumably it was included in MV as a nod to the old-school crowd. In 5e, it returned in the DM Guild product Infernal Machine Rebuild.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Transmuter: Specialist wizard monster statblocks weren't very common in older editions, but somehow this became core in MV, before appearing with a bunch of its fellow 5e specialists in Volo's.</li> </ul><p></p><p>Not in 5e:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Green slime: As a monster, that is. 3e had turned them into a hazard, but 4e restored their monster status in MV. Then 5e made them a hazard again.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Archons: This was the last gasp for 4e's unique take on archons. However, as previously noted, a version kind of snuck into 5e as the "elemental myrmidons" (in Princes of the Apocalypse, then reprinted in Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Abyssal eviscerator: First appearing in 3e's Miniatures Handbook, MV was their last appearance of this demon in D&D.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lots of monster variants: 4e liked having variants for iconic monsters, but 5e has been a lot more conservative about such (outside of humanoids). A few of these did have some prior history, such as the ravenous ghoul and lich necromancer (which made presumably "preview" appearances in the D&D Miniatures Game), bladerager troll (3e's MM V), and the poisonscale (poison dusk) lizardfolk (3e's MM III). (I'd rather like to see more lizardfolk subgroups in 5e.)</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JEB, post: 9289722, member: 10148"] Second-to-last post in the series: an analysis of the new core monsters in 4e's Monster Vault. Core in MV and 5e: Thug, swarm of poisonous snakes. (Thugs had also been core in 2e, but not since.) Non-core in 5e: [LIST] [*]Ambush drake: 4e (like Basic D&D before it) really tried to make drakes a thing, but not many of them moved forward to 5e. One exception was the ambush drake. Notably, it was one of the first non-core conversions to 5e, appearing way back in the Tyranny of Dragons duology. [*]Neo-otyugh: These AD&D creatures hadn't appeared since 2e; presumably it was included in MV as a nod to the old-school crowd. In 5e, it returned in the DM Guild product Infernal Machine Rebuild. [*]Transmuter: Specialist wizard monster statblocks weren't very common in older editions, but somehow this became core in MV, before appearing with a bunch of its fellow 5e specialists in Volo's. [/LIST] Not in 5e: [LIST] [*]Green slime: As a monster, that is. 3e had turned them into a hazard, but 4e restored their monster status in MV. Then 5e made them a hazard again. [*]Archons: This was the last gasp for 4e's unique take on archons. However, as previously noted, a version kind of snuck into 5e as the "elemental myrmidons" (in Princes of the Apocalypse, then reprinted in Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes). [*]Abyssal eviscerator: First appearing in 3e's Miniatures Handbook, MV was their last appearance of this demon in D&D. [*]Lots of monster variants: 4e liked having variants for iconic monsters, but 5e has been a lot more conservative about such (outside of humanoids). A few of these did have some prior history, such as the ravenous ghoul and lich necromancer (which made presumably "preview" appearances in the D&D Miniatures Game), bladerager troll (3e's MM V), and the poisonscale (poison dusk) lizardfolk (3e's MM III). (I'd rather like to see more lizardfolk subgroups in 5e.) [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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