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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7753555" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>I'm not engaging any circular reasoning. There is a game where the rules allow "cheating."</p><p></p><p>But if it's a rule, it's not cheating. It's "cheating."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're kidding, right? This is the internet where you can get 30+ pages on which came first, the chicken or the egg.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No goalpost is being moved, nor is even an iota of cheating happening. Nor for that matter is the DM being evasive. To be evasive, someone has to be inquiring about it. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It depends on what you meant by "parents let you cheat." If you meant that they didn't call out the kid when they saw the kid cheat, it's absolutely a False Equivalence. That's how I read your sentence. If on the other hand you mean let him "cheat" by changing the rules for him, then the kid wasn't cheating.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The DM is given quite a bit of power, and with that great power comes great responsibility. The DM has an obligation not to be a douche and abuse that power. Fudging isn't an abuse, and in 5e is actually a rule, so no Rule 0 is even required. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can understand that. Some people would prefer games where there is no option for the DM to fudge or engage in those sorts of things. Me, I prefer games where it's possible. Responsible DM fiat has resulted in some of the most enjoyable games that I've played in.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7753555, member: 23751"] I'm not engaging any circular reasoning. There is a game where the rules allow "cheating." But if it's a rule, it's not cheating. It's "cheating." You're kidding, right? This is the internet where you can get 30+ pages on which came first, the chicken or the egg. No goalpost is being moved, nor is even an iota of cheating happening. Nor for that matter is the DM being evasive. To be evasive, someone has to be inquiring about it. It depends on what you meant by "parents let you cheat." If you meant that they didn't call out the kid when they saw the kid cheat, it's absolutely a False Equivalence. That's how I read your sentence. If on the other hand you mean let him "cheat" by changing the rules for him, then the kid wasn't cheating. The DM is given quite a bit of power, and with that great power comes great responsibility. The DM has an obligation not to be a douche and abuse that power. Fudging isn't an abuse, and in 5e is actually a rule, so no Rule 0 is even required. I can understand that. Some people would prefer games where there is no option for the DM to fudge or engage in those sorts of things. Me, I prefer games where it's possible. Responsible DM fiat has resulted in some of the most enjoyable games that I've played in. [/QUOTE]
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