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<blockquote data-quote="Tonguez" data-source="post: 6510826" data-attributes="member: 1125"><p>I've used Evolutionary models in my worlds and they work okay provided that you accept that fantasy and science are unconnected<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I once posited that Dragons were synapsids and descended from a pelycosaur with a double sail-fin on its back. I also extended the thinking to include Manticores, Hippogryphs and Kirin as related species. </p><p></p><p>I like the concept of Oozes being gigantic amoembas and that disease is caused by miniscule oozes in the body whose acids are eating away at the host flesh.</p><p></p><p>Using you proposed Elemental model I'd go thus "The Heart of Fire burned hot in the hands of the Creator, and he blew upon the flame with his divine breath which is called Wind and which caused the flame to blaze and spark. The sparks which spiralled upwards within the smoke of the flame became stars and those which fell became the seeds of life.</p><p></p><p>Then the Creator encased the fire which he had kindled within a layer of stone, creating an orb in his hands which warmed and glowed but then began to crack as the fire refused to be contained. And so the Creator had to seal the cracks and also to cool the stone and for this he took the waters of life </p><p>and bathed the orb of stone and fire.</p><p></p><p>And the seeds of life were there within the fire and the stone and the water and the wind"</p><p></p><p>Now assuming Earth + Water = ooze we of course have the birth of Oozes and the miniscule form of single cell amoeba and protozoans.</p><p></p><p>From there you have plants and primitive animals developing as per Doodle god. Then its wide open. Perhaps goblins are amphibians, perhaps trolls are an evolved form of therizinosaurs and bugbears are obviously apes.</p><p></p><p>Now lets look at the base humanoids all of whom appear to be able to interbreed.</p><p></p><p>Humans are a standard evolved form of ape and thus closely related to the neanderthal Orc but more distant from the Austropiticine Bugbear. Humans are versatile and can adapt to most conditions.</p><p></p><p>Elves are a related gracile hominid but not as durable as humans and tend to not adapt so well. However due to early evolutionary exposure to high magic (fae) zones Elf genetics are hugely mutable, indeed it seems that as soon as an elf enters a new environment it is traumatized by the new conditions to the extent that epigenetic change occurs and its offspring will evolve into a new form. Hence elfs have so many variants.</p><p></p><p>Dwarfs are also hominids, possibly a pygmy neanderthal or a related branch. Dwarfs are not adaptable at all but what they do have is huge amounts of endurance. A dwarf wont adapt to any environment outside its alpine caverns, but it will endure them albeit with a gruff bad tempered demeanour.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tonguez, post: 6510826, member: 1125"] I've used Evolutionary models in my worlds and they work okay provided that you accept that fantasy and science are unconnected:) I once posited that Dragons were synapsids and descended from a pelycosaur with a double sail-fin on its back. I also extended the thinking to include Manticores, Hippogryphs and Kirin as related species. I like the concept of Oozes being gigantic amoembas and that disease is caused by miniscule oozes in the body whose acids are eating away at the host flesh. Using you proposed Elemental model I'd go thus "The Heart of Fire burned hot in the hands of the Creator, and he blew upon the flame with his divine breath which is called Wind and which caused the flame to blaze and spark. The sparks which spiralled upwards within the smoke of the flame became stars and those which fell became the seeds of life. Then the Creator encased the fire which he had kindled within a layer of stone, creating an orb in his hands which warmed and glowed but then began to crack as the fire refused to be contained. And so the Creator had to seal the cracks and also to cool the stone and for this he took the waters of life and bathed the orb of stone and fire. And the seeds of life were there within the fire and the stone and the water and the wind" Now assuming Earth + Water = ooze we of course have the birth of Oozes and the miniscule form of single cell amoeba and protozoans. From there you have plants and primitive animals developing as per Doodle god. Then its wide open. Perhaps goblins are amphibians, perhaps trolls are an evolved form of therizinosaurs and bugbears are obviously apes. Now lets look at the base humanoids all of whom appear to be able to interbreed. Humans are a standard evolved form of ape and thus closely related to the neanderthal Orc but more distant from the Austropiticine Bugbear. Humans are versatile and can adapt to most conditions. Elves are a related gracile hominid but not as durable as humans and tend to not adapt so well. However due to early evolutionary exposure to high magic (fae) zones Elf genetics are hugely mutable, indeed it seems that as soon as an elf enters a new environment it is traumatized by the new conditions to the extent that epigenetic change occurs and its offspring will evolve into a new form. Hence elfs have so many variants. Dwarfs are also hominids, possibly a pygmy neanderthal or a related branch. Dwarfs are not adaptable at all but what they do have is huge amounts of endurance. A dwarf wont adapt to any environment outside its alpine caverns, but it will endure them albeit with a gruff bad tempered demeanour. [/QUOTE]
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