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Extra Spell Feat = Extra Confusing [2006 Thread]
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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 2824423" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>What's important to understand, when reading the feat description, is, that the following part does <em>not</em> expand on what the feat does:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>"...is generally used..." does <em>not</em> mean "...can be used..."</p><p></p><p>That's what people often read wrong, and which leads to the confusion.</p><p></p><p>It only gives a reasoning, how a wizard might use the feat, despite the feat being practically useless to a wizard, since there are so many superior methods of learning spells available. So, only in campaigns, where learning spells is heavily restricted (apart from the two spells at each level up usually), this feat <em>might</em> have a use for a wizard.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's all the feat does, there is nothing else.</p><p></p><p>The feat only allows you to learn a spell, it does not change how you learn spells.</p><p></p><p>Now the only question is, what spells can a character (normally) learn?</p><p></p><p>Technically, this allows you to learn any spell in existance from any class list there is, just like a wizard could start the game with <em>Cure Light Wounds</em>, since only the 0th-level spells are indicated to be drawn from the wizard class spell list; but since it does not allow you to cast these spells (nor does learning these spells in any other way, short of Arcane Disciple and very few other methods, if any, which specify, that they improve upon the character's class spell list), learning them would be pathetically useless. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>The only reasonable conclusion is, that characters - of course - can only learn spells, which are on their class spell list (unless specifically stated otherwise, as in Arcane Disciple but not in Extra Spell), because learning a spell, which you cannot cast, is not very useful, and thus not reasonable.</p><p></p><p>The rules (even in the PHB) leave it to the reader to make this leap.</p><p></p><p>The part about casting spells <em>is</em> in the PHB, tho.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Bye</p><p>Thanee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 2824423, member: 478"] What's important to understand, when reading the feat description, is, that the following part does [i]not[/i] expand on what the feat does: "...is generally used..." does [i]not[/i] mean "...can be used..." That's what people often read wrong, and which leads to the confusion. It only gives a reasoning, how a wizard might use the feat, despite the feat being practically useless to a wizard, since there are so many superior methods of learning spells available. So, only in campaigns, where learning spells is heavily restricted (apart from the two spells at each level up usually), this feat [i]might[/i] have a use for a wizard. That's all the feat does, there is nothing else. The feat only allows you to learn a spell, it does not change how you learn spells. Now the only question is, what spells can a character (normally) learn? Technically, this allows you to learn any spell in existance from any class list there is, just like a wizard could start the game with [i]Cure Light Wounds[/i], since only the 0th-level spells are indicated to be drawn from the wizard class spell list; but since it does not allow you to cast these spells (nor does learning these spells in any other way, short of Arcane Disciple and very few other methods, if any, which specify, that they improve upon the character's class spell list), learning them would be pathetically useless. ;) The only reasonable conclusion is, that characters - of course - can only learn spells, which are on their class spell list (unless specifically stated otherwise, as in Arcane Disciple but not in Extra Spell), because learning a spell, which you cannot cast, is not very useful, and thus not reasonable. The rules (even in the PHB) leave it to the reader to make this leap. The part about casting spells [i]is[/i] in the PHB, tho. Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]
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