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Fanatics & Zealots: How to Use Extremism in Antagonists and Villains in Your Campaigns (+)
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<blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8540324" data-attributes="member: 7032025"><p>As very often, a great article, with tons of examples (particularly appreciate the Arcane - which I've just watched - and Sanderson examples). I would just advocate that your second example in WI.2 is actually not really an extremist, she is mostly swept along, whereas the first one absolutely is, to an extreme degree. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I would just add another thing which I think is in filigree in your post but which is very important to me. I loathe extremism in the real world, I think it's one of the greatest sources of human pain and unhappiness, can't abide it. However, in Fantasy games and TTRPG (or LARPs, actually, used this many many times), it's indeed one of the great tools to make a situation, villain or adventure absolutely memorable. You just have to be careful of two things (mainly, there might be others, you'll tell me):</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Make sure that your extremism does not touch personally one of your players (characters are however absolutely fine and even recommended here). This goes with the Tasha's section about session zero and table limits.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Make sure that your extremist is actually an antagonist, and can't be the real hero, so as not to paint a positive picture of extremism (this is really important with the well-intentioned extremist). In the Sanderson example above, he does it very cleverly with the first character (who is definitely not the hero), and when combined with his capability to paint complex characters who evolve during the story, he manages to avoid this pretty well.</li> </ul><p>Anyway, thanks again for the article !</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lyxen, post: 8540324, member: 7032025"] As very often, a great article, with tons of examples (particularly appreciate the Arcane - which I've just watched - and Sanderson examples). I would just advocate that your second example in WI.2 is actually not really an extremist, she is mostly swept along, whereas the first one absolutely is, to an extreme degree. :) I would just add another thing which I think is in filigree in your post but which is very important to me. I loathe extremism in the real world, I think it's one of the greatest sources of human pain and unhappiness, can't abide it. However, in Fantasy games and TTRPG (or LARPs, actually, used this many many times), it's indeed one of the great tools to make a situation, villain or adventure absolutely memorable. You just have to be careful of two things (mainly, there might be others, you'll tell me): [LIST] [*]Make sure that your extremism does not touch personally one of your players (characters are however absolutely fine and even recommended here). This goes with the Tasha's section about session zero and table limits. [*]Make sure that your extremist is actually an antagonist, and can't be the real hero, so as not to paint a positive picture of extremism (this is really important with the well-intentioned extremist). In the Sanderson example above, he does it very cleverly with the first character (who is definitely not the hero), and when combined with his capability to paint complex characters who evolve during the story, he manages to avoid this pretty well. [/LIST] Anyway, thanks again for the article ! [/QUOTE]
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