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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7714745" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I was hoping no one would say anything about this and it would go away, but sigh, no such luck.</p><p></p><p>My general response to this is that I could not think of a way to make feminism more ridiculous or denigrate women more than this does if I thought and worked really hard on it. I'm just dumbfounded. This is probably the sickest slander of women that I've ever seen. The whole thing is just brutally offensive to women. It's so offensive, that I can't help but think that it's the product of some sort of conspiracy against women - even though intellectually I don't believe in conspiracies. But I'm at a loss to explain this.</p><p></p><p>My wife has a Ph.D. in biology. She spent this weekend hiking canyons with me and my daughters. Then she went into the lab and did some research involving biochemistry that is over my head. Then today she went to a middle school to tell kids about science as a female scientist, and she had this young women say, "I'm glad they asked you to come. I don't think people know women can have careers like yours.", and she was (rightly) proud of that and tweeting it everwhere. And she's awesome, and I can point to her and call her things like "my better half" and "my full partner" and "a great role model" and any other superlative.</p><p></p><p>But if I had to judge women by how this represents them? Does anyone really want women judged by this? Thought of like this? Boxed up in predictable boxes like this? Stereotyped like this? Especially women? Most especially women! Do you have any idea how my daughters would respond to this sort of thing where I such a terrible parent as to show them this? They have my wife as a model (thank God) as to what a strong, capable intelligent woman is like. This most certainly doesn't present women in that way. You think I'm not being positive? You think that just because it hashtags #feminism this is some sort of female positive document? Imagine what would happen if I passed this thing around, except that I won't, because wow would this not be well received. This is a travesty, and it pains me to think of this either as a reflection of anyone's actual beliefs or worse that anyone would try to convince someone that this is representative of the beliefs, abilities, and experience of women. Ban me from Enworld for getting off the message if you like, but if this document is a parody it is sick, tasteless, and sexist and if it is not, well, I feel very very sad.</p><p></p><p>The only good thing about this thing is that it's so ridiculous it can't possibly be very subversive.</p><p></p><p>Could we write something about Margaret Weiss or some other actual contributor to our hobby who can in some way role model something actually positive? The worst thing about this is that it isn't actually very clever. We're gaming affectionadoes. We've all seen clever done in a page before. We've seen really elegant game mechanics. That RPG were you where a bear on a page? That was clever. This isn't. (Don't believe me, work out the gist of the text in the above nanogames.) It's not clever gaming and it's not actually woman positive, and on occasion it's down right hateful just in the descriptions. I don't want to think about what the full text is actually like. How does this get to represent and model women and #feminism? Honestly, if someone labelled all this #malechauvism or #mensrights and said it was games written by people mocking feminism, I would have believed them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7714745, member: 4937"] I was hoping no one would say anything about this and it would go away, but sigh, no such luck. My general response to this is that I could not think of a way to make feminism more ridiculous or denigrate women more than this does if I thought and worked really hard on it. I'm just dumbfounded. This is probably the sickest slander of women that I've ever seen. The whole thing is just brutally offensive to women. It's so offensive, that I can't help but think that it's the product of some sort of conspiracy against women - even though intellectually I don't believe in conspiracies. But I'm at a loss to explain this. My wife has a Ph.D. in biology. She spent this weekend hiking canyons with me and my daughters. Then she went into the lab and did some research involving biochemistry that is over my head. Then today she went to a middle school to tell kids about science as a female scientist, and she had this young women say, "I'm glad they asked you to come. I don't think people know women can have careers like yours.", and she was (rightly) proud of that and tweeting it everwhere. And she's awesome, and I can point to her and call her things like "my better half" and "my full partner" and "a great role model" and any other superlative. But if I had to judge women by how this represents them? Does anyone really want women judged by this? Thought of like this? Boxed up in predictable boxes like this? Stereotyped like this? Especially women? Most especially women! Do you have any idea how my daughters would respond to this sort of thing where I such a terrible parent as to show them this? They have my wife as a model (thank God) as to what a strong, capable intelligent woman is like. This most certainly doesn't present women in that way. You think I'm not being positive? You think that just because it hashtags #feminism this is some sort of female positive document? Imagine what would happen if I passed this thing around, except that I won't, because wow would this not be well received. This is a travesty, and it pains me to think of this either as a reflection of anyone's actual beliefs or worse that anyone would try to convince someone that this is representative of the beliefs, abilities, and experience of women. Ban me from Enworld for getting off the message if you like, but if this document is a parody it is sick, tasteless, and sexist and if it is not, well, I feel very very sad. The only good thing about this thing is that it's so ridiculous it can't possibly be very subversive. Could we write something about Margaret Weiss or some other actual contributor to our hobby who can in some way role model something actually positive? The worst thing about this is that it isn't actually very clever. We're gaming affectionadoes. We've all seen clever done in a page before. We've seen really elegant game mechanics. That RPG were you where a bear on a page? That was clever. This isn't. (Don't believe me, work out the gist of the text in the above nanogames.) It's not clever gaming and it's not actually woman positive, and on occasion it's down right hateful just in the descriptions. I don't want to think about what the full text is actually like. How does this get to represent and model women and #feminism? Honestly, if someone labelled all this #malechauvism or #mensrights and said it was games written by people mocking feminism, I would have believed them. [/QUOTE]
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