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<blockquote data-quote="RealAlHazred" data-source="post: 6748641" data-attributes="member: 25818"><p><strong>Originally posted by Syltorian:</strong></p><p></p><p>I am one of those guys still stuck in 3.5, with the only 4e book I own being the Eberron Campaign Setting. Now, there are some changes I don't like (cosmology, despite Keith Baker's excellent damage-control with Baator; dragonborn; etc) but equally, there is a lot I like. The information on Droaam, on the darker side of Vadalis, on Bel Shalor. </p><p></p><p>And then there are the Fey Spires. I really like the major ideas here.</p><p></p><p>Has anyone tried to retrofit them into 3.5? I would love to do so, but have some problems populating them. </p><p></p><p>3.5 Eladrin are quite different from those of 4e, being a celestial race which comes in many different shapes, and with a chaotic good alignment and subtype. They are not fey, though they come from Thelanis, and they are certainly not the type of fey which strikes the mood of the Fey Spires. </p><p></p><p>The inhabitants of the Fey Spires seem to be more on along the lines of the sinister, eerie creatures of the myths and legends, when people called them "fair folk" to avoid upsetting them; creatures with an alien mind which could be helpful one moment and murderous the next. Many remind me of the elves of Terry Pratchett's Discworld: </p><p></p><p>Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder.</p><p> Elves are marvellous. They cause marvels.</p><p> Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies.</p><p> Elves are glamorous. They project glamour.</p><p> Elves are enchanting. They weave enchantment.</p><p> Elves are terrific. They beget terror.</p><p>Terry Pratchett, <em>Lords and Ladies</em>, p.170</p><p></p><p>They are also creatures which are not unique enough to cause problems when entire populations centres must be explained. This works for the 4e Eladrin, yet I cannot find a creature in 3.5 (publications by Wizards and the Dragon/Dungeon magazines) to deploy as the inhabitants (rather than lords, for which some powerful fey creatures could be used) of the fey spires. While many aspects of Keith Baker's <em>Iconic Bestiary: Classic Fey </em>are great for fey-related campaigns, I still cannot find a creature to replace the 4e Eladrin (short of simply making them elves with a fey template, which seems a bit awkward). It need not have the actual abilities of 4e Eladrin, so long as it fits thematically. </p><p></p><p>Many thanks for helping me find a creature that fits in 3.5.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RealAlHazred, post: 6748641, member: 25818"] [b]Originally posted by Syltorian:[/b] I am one of those guys still stuck in 3.5, with the only 4e book I own being the Eberron Campaign Setting. Now, there are some changes I don't like (cosmology, despite Keith Baker's excellent damage-control with Baator; dragonborn; etc) but equally, there is a lot I like. The information on Droaam, on the darker side of Vadalis, on Bel Shalor. And then there are the Fey Spires. I really like the major ideas here. Has anyone tried to retrofit them into 3.5? I would love to do so, but have some problems populating them. 3.5 Eladrin are quite different from those of 4e, being a celestial race which comes in many different shapes, and with a chaotic good alignment and subtype. They are not fey, though they come from Thelanis, and they are certainly not the type of fey which strikes the mood of the Fey Spires. The inhabitants of the Fey Spires seem to be more on along the lines of the sinister, eerie creatures of the myths and legends, when people called them "fair folk" to avoid upsetting them; creatures with an alien mind which could be helpful one moment and murderous the next. Many remind me of the elves of Terry Pratchett's Discworld: Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder. Elves are marvellous. They cause marvels. Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies. Elves are glamorous. They project glamour. Elves are enchanting. They weave enchantment. Elves are terrific. They beget terror. Terry Pratchett, [i]Lords and Ladies[/i], p.170 They are also creatures which are not unique enough to cause problems when entire populations centres must be explained. This works for the 4e Eladrin, yet I cannot find a creature in 3.5 (publications by Wizards and the Dragon/Dungeon magazines) to deploy as the inhabitants (rather than lords, for which some powerful fey creatures could be used) of the fey spires. While many aspects of Keith Baker's [i]Iconic Bestiary: Classic Fey [/i]are great for fey-related campaigns, I still cannot find a creature to replace the 4e Eladrin (short of simply making them elves with a fey template, which seems a bit awkward). It need not have the actual abilities of 4e Eladrin, so long as it fits thematically. Many thanks for helping me find a creature that fits in 3.5. [/QUOTE]
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