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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7995811" data-attributes="member: 6795602"><p><strong>Character Origins:</strong></p><p>The God's are always on the lookout for champions that can help further their cause. The gods sometimes look to proven fighters to take up their cause. They grant these Fighters some divine power but not with the notion that it will continue to grow and be nurtured in them as it would in their true clerics. Instead the power is given to signify them as divine agents to the world.</p><p></p><p><strong>General Benefits:</strong></p><p>A level 1 dip into cleric adds a ton of versatility to a fighter.</p><p>1. Utility cantrips</p><p>2. Ritual Spells that can always be prepared overnight if needed</p><p>3. Combat Buffs</p><p>4. Healing Word for a little whack-a-mole healing</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that one of the Fighter's biggest weaknesses comes in out of combat situations. Many threads have been started to find ways to "fix" that issue. The cleric dip goes a long way toward mitigating that issue. </p><p></p><p><strong>Outstanding Optimization Questions:</strong></p><p>So why is this thread in the optimization section? I want to examine the notion of such a fighter using Action Surge: Bless. A few upfront pros to him doing so.</p><p>1. The fighter has good con saves and good defense.</p><p>2. He doesn't have anything particularly better to concentrate on - contrast this with clerics who are often better off using spirit guardians than bless.</p><p></p><p>However, is this actually better offensively than having the fighter just action surging for attacks? Does it depend on the exact fighter build? What about the Warcleric that can take divine favor for a +1d4 damage bonus to attacks? Those are the kinds of questions I hope to shed light on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7995811, member: 6795602"] [B]Character Origins:[/B] The God's are always on the lookout for champions that can help further their cause. The gods sometimes look to proven fighters to take up their cause. They grant these Fighters some divine power but not with the notion that it will continue to grow and be nurtured in them as it would in their true clerics. Instead the power is given to signify them as divine agents to the world. [B]General Benefits:[/B] A level 1 dip into cleric adds a ton of versatility to a fighter. 1. Utility cantrips 2. Ritual Spells that can always be prepared overnight if needed 3. Combat Buffs 4. Healing Word for a little whack-a-mole healing Keep in mind that one of the Fighter's biggest weaknesses comes in out of combat situations. Many threads have been started to find ways to "fix" that issue. The cleric dip goes a long way toward mitigating that issue. [B]Outstanding Optimization Questions:[/B] So why is this thread in the optimization section? I want to examine the notion of such a fighter using Action Surge: Bless. A few upfront pros to him doing so. 1. The fighter has good con saves and good defense. 2. He doesn't have anything particularly better to concentrate on - contrast this with clerics who are often better off using spirit guardians than bless. However, is this actually better offensively than having the fighter just action surging for attacks? Does it depend on the exact fighter build? What about the Warcleric that can take divine favor for a +1d4 damage bonus to attacks? Those are the kinds of questions I hope to shed light on. [/QUOTE]
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