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<blockquote data-quote="Rechan" data-source="post: 3972744" data-attributes="member: 54846"><p>Except that I would argue that D&D has never been a very good Generic Medieval Europe Fantasy Roleplaying Game. It's just been D&D. </p><p></p><p>And just because there is stuff in there that doesn't Fit in European Fantasy 101 doesn't mean that it <em>can't</em> support Generic European Fantasy Roleplaying Game. </p><p></p><p>Case in point being the Barbarian. Is there any instance in Europe of guys leaping on other people's backs and biting them, or clawing at their face? Does that sound like the Goths? As I said earlier, the Barbarian is more feral, and emulates animals (I'm guessing that the Barbarian will have Totems, like the UA barbarians). So it makes <em>sense</em> that they would have attacks named after animals. </p><p></p><p>How about the Druid, hippies who <em>shapechanged into bears and lions</em>? Not very European fantasy there. The Celts' didn't exactly have a lot of "And then he became an alligator and ate the enemy's face" legends.</p><p></p><p>So, I'm pretty sure you can have European Fantasy 101 and not have too much of a broken vermisilitude if you remove the Druid and Barbarian.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rechan, post: 3972744, member: 54846"] Except that I would argue that D&D has never been a very good Generic Medieval Europe Fantasy Roleplaying Game. It's just been D&D. And just because there is stuff in there that doesn't Fit in European Fantasy 101 doesn't mean that it [i]can't[/i] support Generic European Fantasy Roleplaying Game. Case in point being the Barbarian. Is there any instance in Europe of guys leaping on other people's backs and biting them, or clawing at their face? Does that sound like the Goths? As I said earlier, the Barbarian is more feral, and emulates animals (I'm guessing that the Barbarian will have Totems, like the UA barbarians). So it makes [i]sense[/i] that they would have attacks named after animals. How about the Druid, hippies who [i]shapechanged into bears and lions[/i]? Not very European fantasy there. The Celts' didn't exactly have a lot of "And then he became an alligator and ate the enemy's face" legends. So, I'm pretty sure you can have European Fantasy 101 and not have too much of a broken vermisilitude if you remove the Druid and Barbarian. [/QUOTE]
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