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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Avenger" data-source="post: 7606928" data-attributes="member: 779"><p>One thing that's brought up elsewhere is NPCs and other creatures using firearms, that they'd somehow be too much for PCs, looking on pages 274-275 of the DMG it might normalize many creatures low-level creatures to CR 1/2. But some creatures aren't going to have their CR adjusted just because they're using firearms, a CR 3 Veteran armed with a Musket (1d12) with a Bayonet (1d8 piercing in melee, lose the bonus shortword attack) is still a CR 3 creature.</p><p></p><p>Of course there's going to be special cases and a whole new statblock required if the DM throws in things like an Ogre Cannoneer. As in an Ogre carrying around an Artillery Cannon, and now has a area attack that does 3d10 damage (dex save for half), sure it's melee attack where it tries to club your with that cannon probably still does a base of 2d8, but it could not be represented by applying minor adjustments to the Ogre statblock (an Ogre that can fire a cannon is probably slightly smarter than an average Ogre too), and is at least a CR 4 or 5 creature.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kobold Avenger, post: 7606928, member: 779"] One thing that's brought up elsewhere is NPCs and other creatures using firearms, that they'd somehow be too much for PCs, looking on pages 274-275 of the DMG it might normalize many creatures low-level creatures to CR 1/2. But some creatures aren't going to have their CR adjusted just because they're using firearms, a CR 3 Veteran armed with a Musket (1d12) with a Bayonet (1d8 piercing in melee, lose the bonus shortword attack) is still a CR 3 creature. Of course there's going to be special cases and a whole new statblock required if the DM throws in things like an Ogre Cannoneer. As in an Ogre carrying around an Artillery Cannon, and now has a area attack that does 3d10 damage (dex save for half), sure it's melee attack where it tries to club your with that cannon probably still does a base of 2d8, but it could not be represented by applying minor adjustments to the Ogre statblock (an Ogre that can fire a cannon is probably slightly smarter than an average Ogre too), and is at least a CR 4 or 5 creature. [/QUOTE]
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