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First 2 8th level spells to take?
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<blockquote data-quote="Sejs" data-source="post: 1324333" data-attributes="member: 4910"><p>Depends on if we're talking about Constructs or Golems, here. If we're talking just Constructs, there's plenty you can do - Maze works just dandy against most constructs, particularly the unintelligent ones. Maze has no save, but does allow SR, and requires a DC 20 int check to get out of before the 10 minute time limit is up. Kinda hard to do if you don't have an int score, heh.</p><p></p><p>Otto's Dance is a mind effecting spell, so no good against constructs.</p><p>Polar Ray is a decent blasting spell. No save, allows SR.</p><p>Prismatic Wall is good in general, but SR applies on each color layer in turn. </p><p>Scintilating Pattern is both an illusion and mind-effecting, again no good vs constructs.</p><p>Summon Monster is nice and straight forward.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If it's Golems in particular that you'll be fighting, you've gotta look for things that don't allow SR. That magic immunity trait they have is annoying, but not unsermountable. Incendiary Cloud doesn't allow SR, but it takes time to be really effective. Pretty much all the other spells that work by doing stuff to the target allow for SR, so focusing on affecting your guys instead would be the way to go. Polymorph Any Object is a personal favourite.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sejs, post: 1324333, member: 4910"] Depends on if we're talking about Constructs or Golems, here. If we're talking just Constructs, there's plenty you can do - Maze works just dandy against most constructs, particularly the unintelligent ones. Maze has no save, but does allow SR, and requires a DC 20 int check to get out of before the 10 minute time limit is up. Kinda hard to do if you don't have an int score, heh. Otto's Dance is a mind effecting spell, so no good against constructs. Polar Ray is a decent blasting spell. No save, allows SR. Prismatic Wall is good in general, but SR applies on each color layer in turn. Scintilating Pattern is both an illusion and mind-effecting, again no good vs constructs. Summon Monster is nice and straight forward. If it's Golems in particular that you'll be fighting, you've gotta look for things that don't allow SR. That magic immunity trait they have is annoying, but not unsermountable. Incendiary Cloud doesn't allow SR, but it takes time to be really effective. Pretty much all the other spells that work by doing stuff to the target allow for SR, so focusing on affecting your guys instead would be the way to go. Polymorph Any Object is a personal favourite. [/QUOTE]
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