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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6787215" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Why? Since when does personal choice come into this? Why would a good god care that the only reason you chose the path of good was fear of the Wall. From their point of view, that's a net win. You were good, you did good things, you believed in a good god and you promoted the causes of good throughout your life. So you did it because you were afraid of oblivion? Ok, cool. Now here's your everlasting happy afterlife as a reward. Why would Torm, a god of duty and honor give a toss about the idea of personal choice? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah ah ah. Careful. You don't suffer for eternity in the Wall - you are granted oblivion. Additionally, so long as you didn't outright deny the gods, you'd still go to Torm's afterlife even though you didn't believe or worship Torm if you are judged by Kelemvor to have been following Torm's teachings throughout your life. All it takes is <u>not outright denying the gods</u>. You don't have to have a patron god in order to not go to the Wall. it is the Wall of the <em>Faithless</em> after all. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's only a flawed system if you choose to add in alternatives. For someone in FR, there are no other options. The only way you get to your afterlife is through the Fugue plane and part of that is a point where you are judged. End of story. It's like trying to argue that The Lady of Pain is ultimately unfair and we should talk about why don't all the Factions rise up and destroy Her. Or why don't the inhabitants of Dark Sun not simply rise up and destroy the Sorcerer Kings - a force of incredible evil in the setting. Why do the Good Gods allow things like Ravenloft to exist? Heck, why are the Good Gods groovy with all those undead rising up too? They should be hunting down Velsharoon should they not? </p><p></p><p>I'd much rather try to figure out how to reconcile what the setting actually is saying than try rewriting the setting just to satisfy my own personal moral views and imposing those moral views on the game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6787215, member: 22779"] Why? Since when does personal choice come into this? Why would a good god care that the only reason you chose the path of good was fear of the Wall. From their point of view, that's a net win. You were good, you did good things, you believed in a good god and you promoted the causes of good throughout your life. So you did it because you were afraid of oblivion? Ok, cool. Now here's your everlasting happy afterlife as a reward. Why would Torm, a god of duty and honor give a toss about the idea of personal choice? Ah ah ah. Careful. You don't suffer for eternity in the Wall - you are granted oblivion. Additionally, so long as you didn't outright deny the gods, you'd still go to Torm's afterlife even though you didn't believe or worship Torm if you are judged by Kelemvor to have been following Torm's teachings throughout your life. All it takes is [u]not outright denying the gods[/u]. You don't have to have a patron god in order to not go to the Wall. it is the Wall of the [i]Faithless[/i] after all. It's only a flawed system if you choose to add in alternatives. For someone in FR, there are no other options. The only way you get to your afterlife is through the Fugue plane and part of that is a point where you are judged. End of story. It's like trying to argue that The Lady of Pain is ultimately unfair and we should talk about why don't all the Factions rise up and destroy Her. Or why don't the inhabitants of Dark Sun not simply rise up and destroy the Sorcerer Kings - a force of incredible evil in the setting. Why do the Good Gods allow things like Ravenloft to exist? Heck, why are the Good Gods groovy with all those undead rising up too? They should be hunting down Velsharoon should they not? I'd much rather try to figure out how to reconcile what the setting actually is saying than try rewriting the setting just to satisfy my own personal moral views and imposing those moral views on the game. [/QUOTE]
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