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Forked: (from BuddhaFrog's Setting Thread) - Is Greyhawk really that different?
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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 5314618" data-attributes="member: 3400"><p>I can give a few reasons FR is usually considered higher magic than Greyhawk.</p><p></p><p>In FR regional supplements, you can find high level wizards out in the middle of nowhere pretty easily. They appear in quite a few of the publications. Partly, I think this is to make sure there are interesting NPCs to encounter for PCs of all levels. But it does make it pretty clear there's a lot of high level wizardry sprinkled about. By contrast, there were fewer highly detailed regional supplements for Greyhawk. Had the general methodology behind the FR supplements been turned Greyhawk's way, we might have seen a lot more high level casters in GH as well. But, we didn't see that so there's one difference. </p><p></p><p>Volo's Guides, particularly the guide to Waterdeep, have some pretty gonzo, out-there magic in them. Really, you have to check out Volo's Guide to Waterdeep. Once you've read that, ain't nothin' going to convince you FR isn't a high magic setting. </p><p></p><p>FR publications (supplements and adventures) have had a lot of focus on high level magic wielders as NPCs or mission-givers. Elminster, the Simbul, people hanging around Silverymoon like the Seven Sisters, and so on. There's the Circle of Eight in Greyhawk, so there's some parallel, but they don't seem to show up quite as often. Powerful wizards are more often referred to in the past or no longer directly involved. They don't seem as ubiquitously involved in affairs - and if they are involved, they're a lot more subtle (as Mordenkainen prefers).</p><p></p><p>So, yes, there's a difference and, to my eye, a significant one.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Note: It's not that GH is <strong>low</strong> magic, just <strong>lower</strong> magic. I'd say about moderate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="billd91, post: 5314618, member: 3400"] I can give a few reasons FR is usually considered higher magic than Greyhawk. In FR regional supplements, you can find high level wizards out in the middle of nowhere pretty easily. They appear in quite a few of the publications. Partly, I think this is to make sure there are interesting NPCs to encounter for PCs of all levels. But it does make it pretty clear there's a lot of high level wizardry sprinkled about. By contrast, there were fewer highly detailed regional supplements for Greyhawk. Had the general methodology behind the FR supplements been turned Greyhawk's way, we might have seen a lot more high level casters in GH as well. But, we didn't see that so there's one difference. Volo's Guides, particularly the guide to Waterdeep, have some pretty gonzo, out-there magic in them. Really, you have to check out Volo's Guide to Waterdeep. Once you've read that, ain't nothin' going to convince you FR isn't a high magic setting. FR publications (supplements and adventures) have had a lot of focus on high level magic wielders as NPCs or mission-givers. Elminster, the Simbul, people hanging around Silverymoon like the Seven Sisters, and so on. There's the Circle of Eight in Greyhawk, so there's some parallel, but they don't seem to show up quite as often. Powerful wizards are more often referred to in the past or no longer directly involved. They don't seem as ubiquitously involved in affairs - and if they are involved, they're a lot more subtle (as Mordenkainen prefers). So, yes, there's a difference and, to my eye, a significant one. EDIT: Note: It's not that GH is [b]low[/b] magic, just [b]lower[/b] magic. I'd say about moderate. [/QUOTE]
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