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<blockquote data-quote="prosfilaes" data-source="post: 5757674" data-attributes="member: 40166"><p>You first.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So even if FFG wants to hear it what people have to say, and they want to tell FFG, they still shouldn't say it?!?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then you have no right to say how postings here should or should not be. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In the commercial world, those are not distinct. When people don't buy a product, it stops existing. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All anyone is doing is saying what they'd prefer.</p><p></p><p>Expecting someone else to change something for you is normal in business. People go into fast food places all the time and ask for no tomato on their burger. In cases like boardgames, the creative aspects and the cost saving of mass-production make that harder, but Deep Thought Games, who hand-assemble every game, provide plenty of options about how you can get your game delivered, and I'm sure there's a lot of other changes you could get on request, like maps printed on vinyl. I suspect you could get pretty much arbitrary changes done to a game for a not completely unreasonable price--except that I believe all their designers have day jobs, and thus may not be bound by market demands.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is how the market is receiving the proposal.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, the irony is just thick in here.</p><p></p><p>It is not reasonable to expect that if you do not like something, that it will be automatically changed. It is reasonable that if you do not like something, voicing your opinion gives people a chance to hear you, either in singular or in bulk, and consider your stance. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No; that's but one fragment of the issue. Most likely I will be able to afford to buy Fortress America when it comes out. The question is, will I get to play it enough and will I enjoy it enough to make it worth my money? And if the theme detracts from my enjoyment, or if other people won't play with me because of the theme, then the game is less valuable to me and I'm less likely to buy it.</p><p></p><p>And heck, dumping everything else, free speech is a right. That someone should blow off steam by complaining about something that doesn't really affect him and that he can't really affect is generally fine. And (to beat a dead horse) complaining about people complaining fits right in this category.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="prosfilaes, post: 5757674, member: 40166"] You first. So even if FFG wants to hear it what people have to say, and they want to tell FFG, they still shouldn't say it?!? Then you have no right to say how postings here should or should not be. In the commercial world, those are not distinct. When people don't buy a product, it stops existing. All anyone is doing is saying what they'd prefer. Expecting someone else to change something for you is normal in business. People go into fast food places all the time and ask for no tomato on their burger. In cases like boardgames, the creative aspects and the cost saving of mass-production make that harder, but Deep Thought Games, who hand-assemble every game, provide plenty of options about how you can get your game delivered, and I'm sure there's a lot of other changes you could get on request, like maps printed on vinyl. I suspect you could get pretty much arbitrary changes done to a game for a not completely unreasonable price--except that I believe all their designers have day jobs, and thus may not be bound by market demands. That is how the market is receiving the proposal. Again, the irony is just thick in here. It is not reasonable to expect that if you do not like something, that it will be automatically changed. It is reasonable that if you do not like something, voicing your opinion gives people a chance to hear you, either in singular or in bulk, and consider your stance. No; that's but one fragment of the issue. Most likely I will be able to afford to buy Fortress America when it comes out. The question is, will I get to play it enough and will I enjoy it enough to make it worth my money? And if the theme detracts from my enjoyment, or if other people won't play with me because of the theme, then the game is less valuable to me and I'm less likely to buy it. And heck, dumping everything else, free speech is a right. That someone should blow off steam by complaining about something that doesn't really affect him and that he can't really affect is generally fine. And (to beat a dead horse) complaining about people complaining fits right in this category. [/QUOTE]
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