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<blockquote data-quote="Remus Lupin" data-source="post: 5758302" data-attributes="member: 12760"><p>Oh, come now! You can't possibly believe your own rhetoric at this point. The yellowcake pretext for war was rooted specifically in the claim that he was trying to obtain new yellowcake from Niger. That was the specific claim that Powell made in his UN speech.</p><p></p><p>As for your other claims, it's that Saddam expelled inspectors from Iraq in the 1990s, after they had been caught spying for the US:</p><p></p><p>"Back in 1999, major papers ran front-page investigative stories revealing that the CIA had covertly used U.N. weapons inspectors to spy on Iraq for the U.S.'s own intelligence purposes. "United States officials said today that American spies had worked undercover on teams of United Nations arms inspectors," the New York Times reported (1/7/99).<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />According to the<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />Washington Post (3/2/99),<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />the U.S. "infiltrated agents and espionage equipment for three years into United Nations arms control teams in Iraq to eavesdrop on the Iraqi military without the knowledge of the U.N. agency."<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Undercover U.S. agents "carried out an ambitious spying operation designed to penetrate Iraq's intelligence apparatus and track the movement of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, according to U.S. and U.N. sources,"<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />wrote the Boston Globe (1/6/99) <a href="http://www.fair.org/activism/unscom-history.html" target="_blank">FAIR ACTION ALERT: Spying in Iraq: From Fact to Allegation</a></p><p></p><p>In the runup to the war, Saddam allowed inspectors to return, and those inspectors begged the US for more time to complete its work before the invasion in 2003. The only left (voluntarily), when it became clear the invasion was taking place irrespective.</p><p></p><p>"United Nations weapons inspectors have been advised by the US to leave Iraq, a sign that a US-led attack is imminent.</p><p></p><p>Mohamed ElBaradei, Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency, said on Monday: "Late last night I was advised by the US government to pull out our inspectors from Baghdad."</p><p></p><p>ElBaradei is leading the nuclear weapons inspections in Iraq. He says similar advice has been given to UNMOVIC, the inspection body responsible for all other weapons and lead by Hans Blix." <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3509-un-weapons-inspectors-told-to-leave-iraq.html" target="_blank">UN weapons inspectors told to leave Iraq - 17 March 2003 - New Scientist</a></p><p></p><p>I can go into more detail on your other points later, but I'll just say at this point that my original point stands. You got every point wrong.</p><p></p><p>The order to withdraw has not yet been issued to the scientists carrying out the inspections and Blix is scheduled to give a report to the United Nations Security Council on Tuesday that would call for them to be given more time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remus Lupin, post: 5758302, member: 12760"] Oh, come now! You can't possibly believe your own rhetoric at this point. The yellowcake pretext for war was rooted specifically in the claim that he was trying to obtain new yellowcake from Niger. That was the specific claim that Powell made in his UN speech. As for your other claims, it's that Saddam expelled inspectors from Iraq in the 1990s, after they had been caught spying for the US: "Back in 1999, major papers ran front-page investigative stories revealing that the CIA had covertly used U.N. weapons inspectors to spy on Iraq for the U.S.'s own intelligence purposes. "United States officials said today that American spies had worked undercover on teams of United Nations arms inspectors," the New York Times reported (1/7/99).:):)According to the:)Washington Post (3/2/99),:)the U.S. "infiltrated agents and espionage equipment for three years into United Nations arms control teams in Iraq to eavesdrop on the Iraqi military without the knowledge of the U.N. agency.":) Undercover U.S. agents "carried out an ambitious spying operation designed to penetrate Iraq's intelligence apparatus and track the movement of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, according to U.S. and U.N. sources,":)wrote the Boston Globe (1/6/99) [url=http://www.fair.org/activism/unscom-history.html]FAIR ACTION ALERT: Spying in Iraq: From Fact to Allegation[/url] In the runup to the war, Saddam allowed inspectors to return, and those inspectors begged the US for more time to complete its work before the invasion in 2003. The only left (voluntarily), when it became clear the invasion was taking place irrespective. "United Nations weapons inspectors have been advised by the US to leave Iraq, a sign that a US-led attack is imminent. Mohamed ElBaradei, Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency, said on Monday: "Late last night I was advised by the US government to pull out our inspectors from Baghdad." ElBaradei is leading the nuclear weapons inspections in Iraq. He says similar advice has been given to UNMOVIC, the inspection body responsible for all other weapons and lead by Hans Blix." [url=http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3509-un-weapons-inspectors-told-to-leave-iraq.html]UN weapons inspectors told to leave Iraq - 17 March 2003 - New Scientist[/url] I can go into more detail on your other points later, but I'll just say at this point that my original point stands. You got every point wrong. The order to withdraw has not yet been issued to the scientists carrying out the inspections and Blix is scheduled to give a report to the United Nations Security Council on Tuesday that would call for them to be given more time. [/QUOTE]
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