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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 9129347" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>The final episode was another banger. Lots of strong moments and reveals. (Remember, this is a spoiler thread, so stop reading now if you haven't seen the episode!)</p><p></p><p>Of course, Day was once again played wonderfully by Lee Pace. And what a nice and deserved ending for this Brother Day! Ironically, Castling is usually done to protect the King...</p><p>But a special remark must also be given to the scene between Bel Rios and Hober Mallow - you kinda felt that they were trying to stay calm and stoic in the face of their death, but they also felt uneasy and scared.</p><p></p><p>Demerzel and Dusk's scene was also wonderful. And the beauty is within this moment of character truths, there was still a major betrayal, as Dusk gets close to Demerzel, marking her to warn Dawn. But was it really a betrayal? Realizing that they are all living in a prison of Cleon I.'s making, did he speak honestly to Demerzel, but also give his brother a fighting chance? Demerzel basically told him she could never allow him to try overcoming her programming, because the same programming would force her to stop him and anyone that would try. He quite possibly truly felt everything he told her, even if he marked her as betrayer to Dawn. And maybe, in this, gave them all a small victory against Cleon's legacy.</p><p></p><p>I guess a big question is - did Demerzel recieve the real Prime Radiant? Some speculate it might lead her astray and is fake or manipulted. Personally, I tend to assumee it's the real deal, and it might really end up challenging Demerzel. Seldon warned her - "Do you want longevity, or power? You can't have both." What does her programming do if it wants something that seems impossible?</p><p></p><p>The only thing I wasn't quite fond off was that everyone on Terminus ended up in the Vault. I guess we saw it's gigantic, though the mechanism of how people got inside is stil kinda unclear. It feels a bit too deus ex machina. </p><p>But it was an interesting twist that Clawen actually survived and didn't die like Rios assumed. Almost tragic, but not really, because if he hadn't believed that, would he have turned against Day? I guess there is a chance he might have - ultimately, he thought Terminus' destruction would ensure that the war would end then and there, but our dear "Emperor of Peace" wanted even more destruction, maybe that would have turned him against Day with or without Glawen alive.</p><p></p><p>It was also a very interesting and kinda cruel twist that they ended up proving that the future Gaal saw can be changed by having Salvor die now, and not then. Amusingly, a lot of people thought that the mule and killer of Salvor would end up being that mentalic child. Turns out it's not the mule, but he still kills Salvor...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 9129347, member: 710"] The final episode was another banger. Lots of strong moments and reveals. (Remember, this is a spoiler thread, so stop reading now if you haven't seen the episode!) Of course, Day was once again played wonderfully by Lee Pace. And what a nice and deserved ending for this Brother Day! Ironically, Castling is usually done to protect the King... But a special remark must also be given to the scene between Bel Rios and Hober Mallow - you kinda felt that they were trying to stay calm and stoic in the face of their death, but they also felt uneasy and scared. Demerzel and Dusk's scene was also wonderful. And the beauty is within this moment of character truths, there was still a major betrayal, as Dusk gets close to Demerzel, marking her to warn Dawn. But was it really a betrayal? Realizing that they are all living in a prison of Cleon I.'s making, did he speak honestly to Demerzel, but also give his brother a fighting chance? Demerzel basically told him she could never allow him to try overcoming her programming, because the same programming would force her to stop him and anyone that would try. He quite possibly truly felt everything he told her, even if he marked her as betrayer to Dawn. And maybe, in this, gave them all a small victory against Cleon's legacy. I guess a big question is - did Demerzel recieve the real Prime Radiant? Some speculate it might lead her astray and is fake or manipulted. Personally, I tend to assumee it's the real deal, and it might really end up challenging Demerzel. Seldon warned her - "Do you want longevity, or power? You can't have both." What does her programming do if it wants something that seems impossible? The only thing I wasn't quite fond off was that everyone on Terminus ended up in the Vault. I guess we saw it's gigantic, though the mechanism of how people got inside is stil kinda unclear. It feels a bit too deus ex machina. But it was an interesting twist that Clawen actually survived and didn't die like Rios assumed. Almost tragic, but not really, because if he hadn't believed that, would he have turned against Day? I guess there is a chance he might have - ultimately, he thought Terminus' destruction would ensure that the war would end then and there, but our dear "Emperor of Peace" wanted even more destruction, maybe that would have turned him against Day with or without Glawen alive. It was also a very interesting and kinda cruel twist that they ended up proving that the future Gaal saw can be changed by having Salvor die now, and not then. Amusingly, a lot of people thought that the mule and killer of Salvor would end up being that mentalic child. Turns out it's not the mule, but he still kills Salvor... [/QUOTE]
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