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<blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 8886821" data-attributes="member: 20741"><p>Let me address your comments, because they seem high on hyperbole -- and low on rationality.</p><p></p><p>Firstly, this is not about Foundry VTT -- it is about a patreon software shim created by "Mr. Primate", and another less capable free software shim by VTTA.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, DDB products are something that the vast majority of Foundry VTT users - me included, bought for EXACTLY this purpose. That is ownership of the data from the perspective of "theft" and "ethics". That is a color of right. We aren't talking about theft or piracy anymore -- and it's <em><strong>not even close</strong></em>. </p><p></p><p>"<em>Oh, but you didn't get it for X purposes, you only are allowed to use it for Y purposes. It's theft!"</em></p><p></p><p>What you are talking about is not theft, it's a technical breach of an EULA with ZERO DAMAGES.<strong><em> Indeed, LESS than ZERO damages. </em></strong></p><p></p><p>Why? Because WotC makes MORE money if I buy the product on DDB for use with Foundry VTT than if I was to buy the same product on Roll 20 or FG's store -- because on those purchases, WotC gets only a percentage of the sale, whereas when buying it on DDB (for the same amount of money, I might add) WotC gets 100% of it. </p><p></p><p>Which explains why it is that WotC has not sent a Cease & Desist to Mr. Primate. For the very good reason it is manifestly in WotC's financial interest to allow it to continue. It is, in fact, <em>insanely profitable </em>for them to do so as the marginal cost of allowing it is <em><strong>close to ZERO</strong></em>. The money they get in return is essentially all profit - and they get to keep all of it, 100%.</p><p></p><p>The only people who are aggrieved here is the owner of FG and, to a lesser extent, Roll20, who have technology developed on a more closed system that does not leverage DDB. The people the shareholders of those two services should be upset with is WotC for not sending a C&D. </p><p></p><p>The fact that WotC has not done so tells you all you need to know about what kind of licensor partner WotC is. They will act <strong>only</strong> when it is in their financial interest to do so -- and not until. Just like every other licensor in the history of ever, I might add.</p><p></p><p>If this is a discussion about morals and ethics, the one who is acting unethically isn't me or other Foundry VTT users of Mr. Primate's patreon -- it's WotC, who is happy to take 100% of a sale and screw over their licensees until such time as they can create their own VTT -- <strong><em>and then screw over everybody</em></strong>. </p><p></p><p>Which brings us back to the true subject matter of this thread.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steel_Wind, post: 8886821, member: 20741"] Let me address your comments, because they seem high on hyperbole -- and low on rationality. Firstly, this is not about Foundry VTT -- it is about a patreon software shim created by "Mr. Primate", and another less capable free software shim by VTTA. Secondly, DDB products are something that the vast majority of Foundry VTT users - me included, bought for EXACTLY this purpose. That is ownership of the data from the perspective of "theft" and "ethics". That is a color of right. We aren't talking about theft or piracy anymore -- and it's [I][B]not even close[/B][/I]. "[I]Oh, but you didn't get it for X purposes, you only are allowed to use it for Y purposes. It's theft!"[/I] What you are talking about is not theft, it's a technical breach of an EULA with ZERO DAMAGES.[B][I] Indeed, LESS than ZERO damages. [/I][/B] Why? Because WotC makes MORE money if I buy the product on DDB for use with Foundry VTT than if I was to buy the same product on Roll 20 or FG's store -- because on those purchases, WotC gets only a percentage of the sale, whereas when buying it on DDB (for the same amount of money, I might add) WotC gets 100% of it. Which explains why it is that WotC has not sent a Cease & Desist to Mr. Primate. For the very good reason it is manifestly in WotC's financial interest to allow it to continue. It is, in fact, [I]insanely profitable [/I]for them to do so as the marginal cost of allowing it is [I][B]close to ZERO[/B][/I]. The money they get in return is essentially all profit - and they get to keep all of it, 100%. The only people who are aggrieved here is the owner of FG and, to a lesser extent, Roll20, who have technology developed on a more closed system that does not leverage DDB. The people the shareholders of those two services should be upset with is WotC for not sending a C&D. The fact that WotC has not done so tells you all you need to know about what kind of licensor partner WotC is. They will act [B]only[/B] when it is in their financial interest to do so -- and not until. Just like every other licensor in the history of ever, I might add. If this is a discussion about morals and ethics, the one who is acting unethically isn't me or other Foundry VTT users of Mr. Primate's patreon -- it's WotC, who is happy to take 100% of a sale and screw over their licensees until such time as they can create their own VTT -- [B][I]and then screw over everybody[/I][/B]. Which brings us back to the true subject matter of this thread. [/QUOTE]
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