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<blockquote data-quote="DestroyYouAlot" data-source="post: 3047179" data-attributes="member: 36618"><p>A conversion question, for those who have done this before:</p><p></p><p>As I understand it, I'm absolutely, no ifs, ands or buts, required to convert monsters verbatim, without changes based on CR and whatnot - but does this have to be interpreted to mean a dragon be converted to match the age category listed, or would it be in the spirit of the guidelines to convert based on hit dice? </p><p></p><p>The issue I'm having here is that an ancient bronze dragon, as Srossar from FRC1 is listed, had 9 HD and 72 HP, doing 4-24 points of damage on a bite attack. An ancient bronze dragon as listed in the SRD has 33 HD, 445 HP, and does 16-36 damage on a bite attack (plus umpteen other attack forms, spells, spell-like abilities, IOUs from the mob, and what have you). All that, and then you have to apply the additional abilities for being host to Tyranthraxus. (Flame damage, ESP, and magic resistance, although the 20% this grants, when converted to SR, is nothing compared to what the dragon already has.) This seems like, to me, a somewhat insurmountable obstacle to a mid-level party ever completing this module. (It's a freakin' CR 21 monster, <em>before</em> applying a "Tyranthraxus template".) I know PC power has increased a bit, in comparison with 1e standards, but no way is a 10th level party going to be much more than a nuisance to this beastie, unless I'm missing something - not to mention that they're supposed to be fighting another party of adventurers <em>at the same time,</em> the way the module is scripted. </p><p></p><p>Of course, were I to convert based on HD, I'd get a very young dragon, with a CR of 4, which is no better. Based on the expected level for a party to complete this module, an adult bronze (CR 14, 21 HD) seems reasonable to me, but - of course - I can't just arbitrarily insert that into the module if I'm making the conversion available to download. How the hell do I handle this?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DestroyYouAlot, post: 3047179, member: 36618"] A conversion question, for those who have done this before: As I understand it, I'm absolutely, no ifs, ands or buts, required to convert monsters verbatim, without changes based on CR and whatnot - but does this have to be interpreted to mean a dragon be converted to match the age category listed, or would it be in the spirit of the guidelines to convert based on hit dice? The issue I'm having here is that an ancient bronze dragon, as Srossar from FRC1 is listed, had 9 HD and 72 HP, doing 4-24 points of damage on a bite attack. An ancient bronze dragon as listed in the SRD has 33 HD, 445 HP, and does 16-36 damage on a bite attack (plus umpteen other attack forms, spells, spell-like abilities, IOUs from the mob, and what have you). All that, and then you have to apply the additional abilities for being host to Tyranthraxus. (Flame damage, ESP, and magic resistance, although the 20% this grants, when converted to SR, is nothing compared to what the dragon already has.) This seems like, to me, a somewhat insurmountable obstacle to a mid-level party ever completing this module. (It's a freakin' CR 21 monster, [i]before[/i] applying a "Tyranthraxus template".) I know PC power has increased a bit, in comparison with 1e standards, but no way is a 10th level party going to be much more than a nuisance to this beastie, unless I'm missing something - not to mention that they're supposed to be fighting another party of adventurers [i]at the same time,[/i] the way the module is scripted. Of course, were I to convert based on HD, I'd get a very young dragon, with a CR of 4, which is no better. Based on the expected level for a party to complete this module, an adult bronze (CR 14, 21 HD) seems reasonable to me, but - of course - I can't just arbitrarily insert that into the module if I'm making the conversion available to download. How the hell do I handle this? [/QUOTE]
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