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<blockquote data-quote="Magus_Jerel" data-source="post: 198452" data-attributes="member: 3940"><p>A character can always choose NOT to fulfill the command of a geas, but then takes the "hit". They get a will save to resist the onset of the spell with lesser geas. They don't with geas.</p><p></p><p>The character cannot attempt to "delay" the fulfillment of the order, unless they can interpret the order in some twisted fashion.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's worse than that - you don't get the save to avoid being sickened. However, once crippled - the spell is at it's worst - it can no longer continue to deal the 3d6 damage. In this case - the character need not "make the choice each day" - only once. The character in question lays there until he either starves or the geas is lifted.</p><p></p><p>The spell is - bluntly - utterly and totally broken.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In the heat of battle - against a wizard - I geas him...</p><p></p><p>"thou shalt not attempt to use magic in any shape way or form".</p><p></p><p>...</p><p></p><p>He takes 3d6 each time he tries to cast a spell, and the fighter takes 3d6 every ROUND he wears magic armor or for every ATTACK he tries to make with His sword.</p><p></p><p>Geas doesn't have it's uses in combat - eh?</p><p></p><p>Furthermore - you can always use 2 geas... one to ban the action - and one to force them to perform the action... they wind up setting off one of the geas... and start dying horribly.</p><p></p><p>The spell is utterly and totally BROKEN AND UNBALANCING as written; and anybody who tells you differen't hasn't run up against a player who knows how to word geas correctly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magus_Jerel, post: 198452, member: 3940"] A character can always choose NOT to fulfill the command of a geas, but then takes the "hit". They get a will save to resist the onset of the spell with lesser geas. They don't with geas. The character cannot attempt to "delay" the fulfillment of the order, unless they can interpret the order in some twisted fashion. It's worse than that - you don't get the save to avoid being sickened. However, once crippled - the spell is at it's worst - it can no longer continue to deal the 3d6 damage. In this case - the character need not "make the choice each day" - only once. The character in question lays there until he either starves or the geas is lifted. The spell is - bluntly - utterly and totally broken. In the heat of battle - against a wizard - I geas him... "thou shalt not attempt to use magic in any shape way or form". ... He takes 3d6 each time he tries to cast a spell, and the fighter takes 3d6 every ROUND he wears magic armor or for every ATTACK he tries to make with His sword. Geas doesn't have it's uses in combat - eh? Furthermore - you can always use 2 geas... one to ban the action - and one to force them to perform the action... they wind up setting off one of the geas... and start dying horribly. The spell is utterly and totally BROKEN AND UNBALANCING as written; and anybody who tells you differen't hasn't run up against a player who knows how to word geas correctly. [/QUOTE]
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