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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 8620033" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>Nice response - and just to be clear, I am aware of--and largely agree with the gist of this perspective, though I think it veers a bit away from what I was talking about. To address your points...</p><p></p><p>Yes, agreed - and this relates to what I was saying. Further, "Scandinavia" pinpoints a specific enough culture, or set of closely related cultures, that consultation by representative people makes a lot of sense. But "European" is far more diverse, and includes hundreds of ethnic and cultural groups, especially if you extend back to ancient times.</p><p></p><p>Yes, understood. Still, "European cultural references" is quite different--not to mention generalized and Americanized--from understanding of a specific European culture, especially a pre-modern one. Or to put it bluntly, being American doesn't qualify one to write knowledgeably about Celtic history or ancient Greece.</p><p></p><p>Again, understood. But I'm still not sure how this makes a 21st century American inherently qualified to write about any and all European cultures, even if they share an overall similar geo-political landscape and context. Meaning, regardless of what your ethnicity is, or what you're writing about, it is still a good idea to know what you're writing about.</p><p></p><p>I would also argue that the lack of orientalism or exoticism with regards to, say, depictions of fantasy European cultures, doesn't mean they aren't generalized or even outright butchered by American (or other) authors.</p><p></p><p>All of which I basically agree with - although I think it veers away from the view I was presenting, which is not at all antithetical to what you're talking about, or the basics of colonial history that you describe. </p><p></p><p>Or to put it another way, I think we're talking about two (or three) separate things:</p><p></p><p>One, whether or not an individual (Western) designer understands colonial history; and</p><p></p><p>Two, whether or not a company has diverse hiring practices (and I would add, ideological diversity), and...</p><p></p><p>Three, who is the right person for the job, when writing a specific book.</p><p></p><p>I don't think the three are the same, that they need to be addressed separately. And furthermore, that the first two don't necessarily "solve" the third.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 8620033, member: 59082"] Nice response - and just to be clear, I am aware of--and largely agree with the gist of this perspective, though I think it veers a bit away from what I was talking about. To address your points... Yes, agreed - and this relates to what I was saying. Further, "Scandinavia" pinpoints a specific enough culture, or set of closely related cultures, that consultation by representative people makes a lot of sense. But "European" is far more diverse, and includes hundreds of ethnic and cultural groups, especially if you extend back to ancient times. Yes, understood. Still, "European cultural references" is quite different--not to mention generalized and Americanized--from understanding of a specific European culture, especially a pre-modern one. Or to put it bluntly, being American doesn't qualify one to write knowledgeably about Celtic history or ancient Greece. Again, understood. But I'm still not sure how this makes a 21st century American inherently qualified to write about any and all European cultures, even if they share an overall similar geo-political landscape and context. Meaning, regardless of what your ethnicity is, or what you're writing about, it is still a good idea to know what you're writing about. I would also argue that the lack of orientalism or exoticism with regards to, say, depictions of fantasy European cultures, doesn't mean they aren't generalized or even outright butchered by American (or other) authors. All of which I basically agree with - although I think it veers away from the view I was presenting, which is not at all antithetical to what you're talking about, or the basics of colonial history that you describe. Or to put it another way, I think we're talking about two (or three) separate things: One, whether or not an individual (Western) designer understands colonial history; and Two, whether or not a company has diverse hiring practices (and I would add, ideological diversity), and... Three, who is the right person for the job, when writing a specific book. I don't think the three are the same, that they need to be addressed separately. And furthermore, that the first two don't necessarily "solve" the third. [/QUOTE]
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