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Dannyalcatraz

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From this thread (http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=213060&page=4&pp=30) & post:

Dannyalcatraz
Still have any faves left over? My collection is smallish, but growing: a Yamaha Classical, a Caddilac Greenburst Ovation Elite tuned C-G-D-A-E-G, a Washburn fretless acc/elec 4str Bass, a Dean 25 Anniversary Caddy 3 humbucker model tuned C-G-D-A-E-G, the Dean EVO Special Select pictured in my Avatar, and 3 Jon Kammerer (http://jonkammererguitars.com/gallery.php) guitars...one prototype "butterbean" 3 single pickup, a walnut accoustic with flamed F-hole, and a blueburst "factory dinged" version of one of these (http://jonkammererguitars.com/detai...dID=77&rowNum=0) tuned C-G-D-A-E-G.

You should see my wish list!

All I have left is my Gibson Les Paul Studio (Black), an Ibanez RG7620 7-String (Vampire Kiss), an old 1955 Gibson acoustic 3/4 size that I don't play - my dad's first guitar, and a crappy $150 generic model classical. I really should get a nice mid-range classical guitar again.

All tuned in the traditional method. I haven't played one tuned with the Guitar Craft method, though Fripp is a genius. How does it play and how does chord structure work?

Good question! Also called NST (New Standard Tuning), Guitar Craft's C-G-D-A-E-G is actually a blast to play around with.

Unfortunately, I have not seen a single website or publication that details the chords in that tuning, and I once contacted Dicipline Global Mobile (http://www.dgmlive.com/) about purchasing one. Their answer was essentially find a Guitar Craft teacher or discover the wonderments yourself. :\

So...I've been messing around with it for some time. It took me a while to realize that the bottom 4 strings are tuned like a cello (an instrument I used to play). Unfortunately, cellos aren't set up to do much in the way of chords- the neck has too great a curve to involve more than 2 strings at any one time.

IME, without a teacher, its very "chime-ey." Traditional mainstream rock/blues progressions are playable, but with a bit more stretching involved. You also might find yourself constructing chords with the notes "out of place," as in a note that would normally be pitched higher in a chord in standard tuning might be played on the lower strings.

For the most part, the shapes of the chords I've discovered are also not real "knuckle-busters," and yes, there are barre chords that sound quite nice.

Overall, it almost forces you to play "progressive" music...jazz, KC type stuff, and so forth. However, I've also noted that the broader range lends itself nicely to the same kind of stuff guys using Drop tunings or 7-String axes are doing. Thus, you can emulate ths sounds of bands like Dream Theatre, Shadows Fall, and The Deftones...though I haven't tried actually learning any of their songs in NST.

(For the record, one of the axes on my list is a Steinberger Synapse Transcale Baritone- with it, I could drop NST to B-F-C-G-D-F and use the integrated capo to get C-G-D-A-E-G, or go even higher.)

In the hands of guys who know what they're doing, though...its amazing. Check out League of Crafty Guitarists, and graduates from that program, the California Guitar Trio.
 
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