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<blockquote data-quote="Hjorimir" data-source="post: 1616138" data-attributes="member: 5745"><p>Saying they are of college age could simply mean ‘fresh out of high school’ and, if my memory serves, the majority of guys that played D&D in high school never had a girlfriend. This sounds to me like such a group. I’m not trying to make excuses for their poor manners and uncouth behavior, but I have seen the mentality before and kind of see how it develops.</p><p></p><p>I’ve been playing D&D for just over twenty-five years and have gamed with a total of eight females. Six of them were the ‘significant other’ of one of the guys playing and the other two were part of a family game (where the DM was the father and I ended up dating one of them though I had been playing D&D for quite a while before that).</p><p></p><p>Of those eight female players, not a one of them were what I would consider highly knowledgeable of the rules. Though most of them role-played quite well, they all pretty much had character sheets handed to them.</p><p></p><p>My wife is exactly this way. It isn’t that she isn’t perfectly capable of learning the rules (she is a software QA analyst and runs SQL queries and does all kinds of technical things), it is just that she isn’t inspired to read rules that are, admittedly, quite dry.</p><p></p><p>I imagine that if I had an immature attitude and combined my personal life experiences, I would behave in much the same way. I am older now and, hopefully, wiser and see them for what they are: people. I have guys that game with me that can’t even manage their own character sheets with anything that resembles accuracy.</p><p></p><p>I wish that there were more female gamers in our group and, more importantly, in the hobby. It has been my experience that women tend to be strong role-players with a vivid imagination and, sometimes, can breath some life into the game where it was previously missing.</p><p></p><p>I’ve played female characters and I’ve seen other guys do it as well. Let me tell you, women play women much better than men ever will. I think we just may be different somehow.</p><p></p><p>I don’t think it is realistic (or healthy) to try and change another human being overnight. These guys sound like they are going to need some life experiences with the opposite sex (probably both as friends and as girlfriends) before they have a more objective view. You’re probably better off looking for other gamers that are mature and accepting.</p><p></p><p>Good luck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hjorimir, post: 1616138, member: 5745"] Saying they are of college age could simply mean ‘fresh out of high school’ and, if my memory serves, the majority of guys that played D&D in high school never had a girlfriend. This sounds to me like such a group. I’m not trying to make excuses for their poor manners and uncouth behavior, but I have seen the mentality before and kind of see how it develops. I’ve been playing D&D for just over twenty-five years and have gamed with a total of eight females. Six of them were the ‘significant other’ of one of the guys playing and the other two were part of a family game (where the DM was the father and I ended up dating one of them though I had been playing D&D for quite a while before that). Of those eight female players, not a one of them were what I would consider highly knowledgeable of the rules. Though most of them role-played quite well, they all pretty much had character sheets handed to them. My wife is exactly this way. It isn’t that she isn’t perfectly capable of learning the rules (she is a software QA analyst and runs SQL queries and does all kinds of technical things), it is just that she isn’t inspired to read rules that are, admittedly, quite dry. I imagine that if I had an immature attitude and combined my personal life experiences, I would behave in much the same way. I am older now and, hopefully, wiser and see them for what they are: people. I have guys that game with me that can’t even manage their own character sheets with anything that resembles accuracy. I wish that there were more female gamers in our group and, more importantly, in the hobby. It has been my experience that women tend to be strong role-players with a vivid imagination and, sometimes, can breath some life into the game where it was previously missing. I’ve played female characters and I’ve seen other guys do it as well. Let me tell you, women play women much better than men ever will. I think we just may be different somehow. I don’t think it is realistic (or healthy) to try and change another human being overnight. These guys sound like they are going to need some life experiences with the opposite sex (probably both as friends and as girlfriends) before they have a more objective view. You’re probably better off looking for other gamers that are mature and accepting. Good luck. [/QUOTE]
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