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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6382766" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p>There isn't anything in the above about this being about playing a transgendered PC. The PC does not believe she is a man, she's trying to pass herself off as one to everyone else via disguise. Which, flat out, naked is not possible. In "undergarments" might be. But that was not specified in the bathing story we got. </p><p></p><p>For this player, sounds to me...there is "denial" and then there is "delusion." This player sounds like they are more steeped in the latter than the former. Or simply a compulsive liar in some misguided attempt/perception to "win" and/or play the game they want/imagine regardless of what is actually happening...in which case, they are welcome to go play by themselves.</p><p></p><p>The player's apparent mental issues aside, which you can do nothing about, this is a DMing issue.</p><p></p><p>Do not <em>argue.</em></p><p></p><p>When the player says "I did this" [and there's no way they did] say "NO" not "When?" When the player says "But you guys all think..." say "NO." As noted above, that player does not get to say what other PCs or NPCs think or believe. If you say "NO" and they insist on "Yes" in the face of actual rules and the DM's rulings, there's no way to reason with the irrational.</p><p></p><p>If you want a "rules" defense, 1 rank in a skill is not enough to let <em>anything </em>go or make anything in that skill automatic. </p><p></p><p>My inkling is that, when confronted/denied their story this player will have some kind of meltdown, ultimately refuse to follow your rulings and be generally disruptive to play/the game for the rest of the table. Biiiig no-no. Boot 'em until such time as they are capable of handling the "reality" of the game.</p><p></p><p>Just from the incidents listed above, I am surprised they are still at the table at all.</p><p></p><p>They can play well with others...and by the rulings of the DM!...or they can walk. Put your DMing foot down. If they can handle that, great. If they can't (and it sounds to me like this particular player will -perhaps even can- not) boot 'em.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 6382766, member: 92511"] There isn't anything in the above about this being about playing a transgendered PC. The PC does not believe she is a man, she's trying to pass herself off as one to everyone else via disguise. Which, flat out, naked is not possible. In "undergarments" might be. But that was not specified in the bathing story we got. For this player, sounds to me...there is "denial" and then there is "delusion." This player sounds like they are more steeped in the latter than the former. Or simply a compulsive liar in some misguided attempt/perception to "win" and/or play the game they want/imagine regardless of what is actually happening...in which case, they are welcome to go play by themselves. The player's apparent mental issues aside, which you can do nothing about, this is a DMing issue. Do not [I]argue.[/I] When the player says "I did this" [and there's no way they did] say "NO" not "When?" When the player says "But you guys all think..." say "NO." As noted above, that player does not get to say what other PCs or NPCs think or believe. If you say "NO" and they insist on "Yes" in the face of actual rules and the DM's rulings, there's no way to reason with the irrational. If you want a "rules" defense, 1 rank in a skill is not enough to let [I]anything [/I]go or make anything in that skill automatic. My inkling is that, when confronted/denied their story this player will have some kind of meltdown, ultimately refuse to follow your rulings and be generally disruptive to play/the game for the rest of the table. Biiiig no-no. Boot 'em until such time as they are capable of handling the "reality" of the game. Just from the incidents listed above, I am surprised they are still at the table at all. They can play well with others...and by the rulings of the DM!...or they can walk. Put your DMing foot down. If they can handle that, great. If they can't (and it sounds to me like this particular player will -perhaps even can- not) boot 'em. [/QUOTE]
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