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<blockquote data-quote="kinem" data-source="post: 6036543" data-attributes="member: 24234"><p>re: Polymorph Any: The suggestion that a PC would avoid using it as an attack due to moral reasons is ridiculous, both because there is much at stake in the battles (fates of many), and because it is actually <em>less</em> deadly than dishing out damage - because the effect can typically be <em>reversed</em> if the victors want to (<em>or</em> converted to a kill if they so choose), which also gives the advantage of allowing capturing and perhaps interrogation of foes.</p><p></p><p>And Jemal's claim that it is a weak attack is, well, a weak attempt at trying to justify his position. It can end a battle in one stroke - hardly weak, especially if the battle seems to be going against us. (Not to mention that it gives the capturing option which damage simply doesn't give.) And sorcerers can cast several a day.</p><p></p><p>Yes, you are being deliberately holding back IC if you fail to use it, even if you can easily mask that fact because your caster is so powerful in other ways. Likewise, enemies would be fools not to use it on us if they could.</p><p></p><p>Would a full duration noxious blast have been OK if it were made <em>more</em> powerful by letting a warlock also be able to use it to buff allies, e.g. if when used on an ally it doesn't cause damage and gives something useful instead? I hardly think so, but Jemal's logic on PAO (OK since it can buff) would suggest it would be.</p><p></p><p>How about making PAO unable to affect unwilling creatures?</p><p></p><p>In any case, Jemal, you are the DM and I want to play this game, so while we obviously don't agree on various points and probably never will, I will accept your rulings so we can move on.</p><p></p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>Binder Fred, I like that idea for Braham. Rather than "the Barbarian Legion", I'd prefer the name "the Free Legion". Braham, being chaotic good, is big on freedom.</p><p></p><p>Braham could be from the desert Shayuri mentions; in any case, he's from the equivalent of the middle east.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kinem, post: 6036543, member: 24234"] re: Polymorph Any: The suggestion that a PC would avoid using it as an attack due to moral reasons is ridiculous, both because there is much at stake in the battles (fates of many), and because it is actually [I]less[/I] deadly than dishing out damage - because the effect can typically be [I]reversed[/I] if the victors want to ([I]or[/I] converted to a kill if they so choose), which also gives the advantage of allowing capturing and perhaps interrogation of foes. And Jemal's claim that it is a weak attack is, well, a weak attempt at trying to justify his position. It can end a battle in one stroke - hardly weak, especially if the battle seems to be going against us. (Not to mention that it gives the capturing option which damage simply doesn't give.) And sorcerers can cast several a day. Yes, you are being deliberately holding back IC if you fail to use it, even if you can easily mask that fact because your caster is so powerful in other ways. Likewise, enemies would be fools not to use it on us if they could. Would a full duration noxious blast have been OK if it were made [I]more[/I] powerful by letting a warlock also be able to use it to buff allies, e.g. if when used on an ally it doesn't cause damage and gives something useful instead? I hardly think so, but Jemal's logic on PAO (OK since it can buff) would suggest it would be. How about making PAO unable to affect unwilling creatures? In any case, Jemal, you are the DM and I want to play this game, so while we obviously don't agree on various points and probably never will, I will accept your rulings so we can move on. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Binder Fred, I like that idea for Braham. Rather than "the Barbarian Legion", I'd prefer the name "the Free Legion". Braham, being chaotic good, is big on freedom. Braham could be from the desert Shayuri mentions; in any case, he's from the equivalent of the middle east. [/QUOTE]
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