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<blockquote data-quote="The Monster" data-source="post: 7782957" data-attributes="member: 69516"><p><em>...um...trying to get back on topic...</em> </p><p>The OP touches on something that has crossed my mind recently as well. I remember back in the '80s thinking that we were unlikely to see very good fantasy or 'comic-book' films until we had a generation of people who had grown up immersed in both the world of film-making and the world of geekdom. </p><p>There had been a run of big-screen hits that showed potential - <em>Star Wars</em> (1977) of course, but also <em>Conan the Barbarian</em> (1982), <em>Alien </em>(1979), even lesser films like <em>Dragonslayer </em>(1981) which was not a great film but had an astounding dragon. Star Wars followed with <em>The Empire Strikes Back</em> and <em>Return of the Jedi</em>, but largely sat on it laurels film-wise while its universe developed in other media (books and comics - and games). </p><p></p><p>Then, some twenty years later (gosh, about a generation or so!), we get Peter Jackson's <em>Lord of the Rings</em> series (starting in 2001) and the MCU (starting with Iron Man in 2008); Star Wars was back on the big screen in 1999 (<em>The Phantom Menace</em>) to decidely mixed reviews, but successful films. Thus the era of big, interconnected, preplanned stories, spinoff TV shows (on networks, cable, and/or streaming) was launched. Sure enough, film-makers who had grown up with comics and Star Wars and all those SF/F films in the 60's 70's and early 80's could now put them together effectively and consistently. </p><p></p><p>I've wondered what the next phase is, and how long it will take. "Geeky" films - superheroes, D&D-esque fantasy and so forth - are big business now, with all the good and bad that implies. Maybe it just settles into just another film/entertainment genre; maybe the popularity fades like the Western. Maybe there's some amazing new version that will erupt into pop culture in a few years. I can only hope I live long enough to see it. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Monster, post: 7782957, member: 69516"] [I]...um...trying to get back on topic...[/I] The OP touches on something that has crossed my mind recently as well. I remember back in the '80s thinking that we were unlikely to see very good fantasy or 'comic-book' films until we had a generation of people who had grown up immersed in both the world of film-making and the world of geekdom. There had been a run of big-screen hits that showed potential - [I]Star Wars[/I] (1977) of course, but also [I]Conan the Barbarian[/I] (1982), [I]Alien [/I](1979), even lesser films like [I]Dragonslayer [/I](1981) which was not a great film but had an astounding dragon. Star Wars followed with [I]The Empire Strikes Back[/I] and [I]Return of the Jedi[/I], but largely sat on it laurels film-wise while its universe developed in other media (books and comics - and games). Then, some twenty years later (gosh, about a generation or so!), we get Peter Jackson's [I]Lord of the Rings[/I] series (starting in 2001) and the MCU (starting with Iron Man in 2008); Star Wars was back on the big screen in 1999 ([I]The Phantom Menace[/I]) to decidely mixed reviews, but successful films. Thus the era of big, interconnected, preplanned stories, spinoff TV shows (on networks, cable, and/or streaming) was launched. Sure enough, film-makers who had grown up with comics and Star Wars and all those SF/F films in the 60's 70's and early 80's could now put them together effectively and consistently. I've wondered what the next phase is, and how long it will take. "Geeky" films - superheroes, D&D-esque fantasy and so forth - are big business now, with all the good and bad that implies. Maybe it just settles into just another film/entertainment genre; maybe the popularity fades like the Western. Maybe there's some amazing new version that will erupt into pop culture in a few years. I can only hope I live long enough to see it. :) [/QUOTE]
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