Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
The
VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX
is coming! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Geisha, the (missing) Asian Bard
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="smootrk" data-source="post: 3216275" data-attributes="member: 28583"><p>I am not sure I understand your take on the Geisha Defense. It is just a dodge bonus based upon her ability to subtlety distract foes in combat. As she goes up in Geisha levels she gains a little more defensive ability - it could be called distraction by beauty, grace, dance moves, etc. I put in the CHA cap (like the similar Jester ability from DC1) to reflect that it is partially based on her ability to have a striking presence (ie CHA).</p><p></p><p>I like the Courtier class. It has its place, but it strikes me as more of a politician or aristocrat, than a performer. I did look very closely at the Gossip/Gather Info skills of the class for the possibility of using aspects of it. </p><p></p><p>Ultimately, as I described a little above, I thought the Geisha would be more similar to standard bards with their Bard Knowledge ability (based on reading poetry, epic stories, classic songs, etc), with only a minor focus on true gossip. The net effect may be similar, but it is gathered differently. Courtiers actively gather intel, make contacts, grease some palms, etc. while the Geisha innocently (or maybe not so innocently) overhears tidbits of info while doing her 'personal escort' or performance roles. Much business transacts while in the Tea House, and the Geisha may be privy to portions that the patrons unwittingly discuss.</p><p></p><p>A smart or crafty Geisha would have many Courtier clients (as well as powerful Samurai and Daimyo) to aid info gathering, especially if she deals on the side with information brokering.</p><p></p><p>I do want to be clear that I did not design the class as some sort of covert cover for other activities, whether Court Spy, Ninja Assassin, or similar endeavors. The class is for entertainers (albeit with some thought on integration into adventuring parties). Multiclassing is probably what is needed to serve these slightly associated functions. I can envision specialized PRC's that address these aspects or bridge some multiclass options. An Okiya would probably make a very good cover operation for a Clan of Female Ninja Operatives.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smootrk, post: 3216275, member: 28583"] I am not sure I understand your take on the Geisha Defense. It is just a dodge bonus based upon her ability to subtlety distract foes in combat. As she goes up in Geisha levels she gains a little more defensive ability - it could be called distraction by beauty, grace, dance moves, etc. I put in the CHA cap (like the similar Jester ability from DC1) to reflect that it is partially based on her ability to have a striking presence (ie CHA). I like the Courtier class. It has its place, but it strikes me as more of a politician or aristocrat, than a performer. I did look very closely at the Gossip/Gather Info skills of the class for the possibility of using aspects of it. Ultimately, as I described a little above, I thought the Geisha would be more similar to standard bards with their Bard Knowledge ability (based on reading poetry, epic stories, classic songs, etc), with only a minor focus on true gossip. The net effect may be similar, but it is gathered differently. Courtiers actively gather intel, make contacts, grease some palms, etc. while the Geisha innocently (or maybe not so innocently) overhears tidbits of info while doing her 'personal escort' or performance roles. Much business transacts while in the Tea House, and the Geisha may be privy to portions that the patrons unwittingly discuss. A smart or crafty Geisha would have many Courtier clients (as well as powerful Samurai and Daimyo) to aid info gathering, especially if she deals on the side with information brokering. I do want to be clear that I did not design the class as some sort of covert cover for other activities, whether Court Spy, Ninja Assassin, or similar endeavors. The class is for entertainers (albeit with some thought on integration into adventuring parties). Multiclassing is probably what is needed to serve these slightly associated functions. I can envision specialized PRC's that address these aspects or bridge some multiclass options. An Okiya would probably make a very good cover operation for a Clan of Female Ninja Operatives. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Geisha, the (missing) Asian Bard
Top