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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 3793221" data-attributes="member: 29014"><p>That's a strawman. My point is that the 'usual time' section should be by no means canonical when it makes absolutely no sense.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Really? I thought you lose the whole bonus that came from Disguise, not just Disguise ranks. Either way, it's easy to compare the +15 (ranks only) Disguise expert to the +0 (untrained). What is there to notice as 'wrong' in the disguise of the Japanese girl pretending to be a Japanese schoolgirl by wearing her uniform without taking 10 minutes?</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I think we should stop debating this for a few reasons:</p><p></p><p>1) I don't actually care because it doesn't really affect any of my characters much, and I'm going to ignore all silly rulings when I GM anyway</p><p></p><p>2) I don't think the ruling by SK is 'wrong', I just think it's stupid/silly, which is a qualitative argument that can never be proven either way</p><p></p><p>and 3) I don't seem to be getting across my example anyway and you also seem to be growing increasingly frustrated, which is a bit silly when debating a point that doesn't really matter just for fun--frustration makes it stop being fun <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 3793221, member: 29014"] That's a strawman. My point is that the 'usual time' section should be by no means canonical when it makes absolutely no sense. Really? I thought you lose the whole bonus that came from Disguise, not just Disguise ranks. Either way, it's easy to compare the +15 (ranks only) Disguise expert to the +0 (untrained). What is there to notice as 'wrong' in the disguise of the Japanese girl pretending to be a Japanese schoolgirl by wearing her uniform without taking 10 minutes? Anyway, I think we should stop debating this for a few reasons: 1) I don't actually care because it doesn't really affect any of my characters much, and I'm going to ignore all silly rulings when I GM anyway 2) I don't think the ruling by SK is 'wrong', I just think it's stupid/silly, which is a qualitative argument that can never be proven either way and 3) I don't seem to be getting across my example anyway and you also seem to be growing increasingly frustrated, which is a bit silly when debating a point that doesn't really matter just for fun--frustration makes it stop being fun ;) [/QUOTE]
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