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<blockquote data-quote="Rechan" data-source="post: 3786258" data-attributes="member: 54846"><p>Nor should it be "What was in vogue back in the days of Gary Gygax". And <strong>while I am not saying you are claiming this</strong>, "Don't change it because it's always been that way" makes about as much sense as "change for change's sake". </p><p></p><p>As it stands, I don't quite understand how the 3e elves make good woodsmen. I mean, -2 to Con? For a long lived race that stays in the woods and would be exposed to diseases and poisonous animals? I'd expect them to drop like flies due to being so frail.</p><p></p><p>I think the race change was to make things make more sense, and to get rid of subraces. It's no longer Elf: (Smartypants) versus Elf (Woodsman). It's Elf, and something vaguely related by distant relatives but are no longer mistaken for elves, from what I grokked.</p><p></p><p></p><p>There are three options here.</p><p></p><p>1) They wanted to jack you out of your money. </p><p>2) They wanted to give the Planescape/Blood War loving folk one last hurrah before they changed it. This way the Blood War fans could have their cake and use it when they switched to 4e, or a resource when they didn't switch to 4e.</p><p>3) The guys who wrote the <em>Fiendish Codex</em> are not the same guys who decided to change the devils. </p><p></p><p>Publishing a book in one edition and then changing it in the next edition doesn't "make the game better" but it doesn't "Make it worse". </p><p></p><p>However, <em>the change in the Devils</em> makes the game better by making them more Distinct from Demons. As it was said from one of the guys designing the demons and devils mechanically, fighting demons and devils are seperate experiences that are very distinct for each creature kind. So I imagine they had to make them even more seperate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rechan, post: 3786258, member: 54846"] Nor should it be "What was in vogue back in the days of Gary Gygax". And [b]while I am not saying you are claiming this[/b], "Don't change it because it's always been that way" makes about as much sense as "change for change's sake". As it stands, I don't quite understand how the 3e elves make good woodsmen. I mean, -2 to Con? For a long lived race that stays in the woods and would be exposed to diseases and poisonous animals? I'd expect them to drop like flies due to being so frail. I think the race change was to make things make more sense, and to get rid of subraces. It's no longer Elf: (Smartypants) versus Elf (Woodsman). It's Elf, and something vaguely related by distant relatives but are no longer mistaken for elves, from what I grokked. There are three options here. 1) They wanted to jack you out of your money. 2) They wanted to give the Planescape/Blood War loving folk one last hurrah before they changed it. This way the Blood War fans could have their cake and use it when they switched to 4e, or a resource when they didn't switch to 4e. 3) The guys who wrote the [i]Fiendish Codex[/i] are not the same guys who decided to change the devils. Publishing a book in one edition and then changing it in the next edition doesn't "make the game better" but it doesn't "Make it worse". However, [i]the change in the Devils[/i] makes the game better by making them more Distinct from Demons. As it was said from one of the guys designing the demons and devils mechanically, fighting demons and devils are seperate experiences that are very distinct for each creature kind. So I imagine they had to make them even more seperate. [/QUOTE]
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