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Good lower level spells to bother a higher level party?
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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 4819453" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>Grease and Ray of Enfeeblement are good. I also like Ray of Clumsiness, since it targets dex and thus is guaranteed to debuff pretty much anyone. Obscuring Mist or darkness spells can be useful if the BBEG has Blindfight or some other means ot be less hindered by it than the party. An invisible minion wating patiently in a corner, readying to magic missile a PC when he looks to be just about ot fall or has fallen but not dead is a very cruel but effective way to make a minion caster scary.</p><p></p><p>Spells that relentlessly follow a person around like Spiritual Weapon and...(the level 1 SpC spell that makes a thunder cloud appear over the person's head, striking 1/round for 1 lightning damage) can give a PC who tries to use invisibility himself a major headache.</p><p></p><p>There's a level 1 or 2 spell in Complete Scoundrel to create a 5 ft cube of wood. You could have someone ready to cast that to interrupt a charge. If the BBEG or someone else actually high level disarms a PC, a minion can use mage hand or greater mage hand to retrieve the item (and run off) before the PC gets a chance to act again. If he can't run off, use mage hand to give it to another minion who's turn is coming up, so he can run off.</p><p></p><p>Try to find threads on how to use Silent Image creatively, some of those ideas could help for your battle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 4819453, member: 35909"] Grease and Ray of Enfeeblement are good. I also like Ray of Clumsiness, since it targets dex and thus is guaranteed to debuff pretty much anyone. Obscuring Mist or darkness spells can be useful if the BBEG has Blindfight or some other means ot be less hindered by it than the party. An invisible minion wating patiently in a corner, readying to magic missile a PC when he looks to be just about ot fall or has fallen but not dead is a very cruel but effective way to make a minion caster scary. Spells that relentlessly follow a person around like Spiritual Weapon and...(the level 1 SpC spell that makes a thunder cloud appear over the person's head, striking 1/round for 1 lightning damage) can give a PC who tries to use invisibility himself a major headache. There's a level 1 or 2 spell in Complete Scoundrel to create a 5 ft cube of wood. You could have someone ready to cast that to interrupt a charge. If the BBEG or someone else actually high level disarms a PC, a minion can use mage hand or greater mage hand to retrieve the item (and run off) before the PC gets a chance to act again. If he can't run off, use mage hand to give it to another minion who's turn is coming up, so he can run off. Try to find threads on how to use Silent Image creatively, some of those ideas could help for your battle. [/QUOTE]
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