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<blockquote data-quote="JackGiantkiller" data-source="post: 1915053" data-attributes="member: 5080"><p>Earlier in this thread, this statement was made:</p><p></p><p></p><p>"there are also evil persons IRL, but you don't kill them even if you have the opportunity to 100% escape law punishment."</p><p></p><p>My question: if you know they are evil, have seen them committing the evil, and you won't be punished for killing them....why *don't* you kill them?</p><p></p><p></p><p>In modern terms, many things we do in D&D, as our chracters, are evil. But to a medieval mindset, these things were not evil. In part, we play the game to roleplay the mindset of different cultures and periods. We should take into account the prevalent opinions in the world on the nature of good and evil, even if we personally believe that evil is objective.</p><p></p><p>And if Evil is truly objective, and whole races actually are Evil with a big E...how can it be evil to slay them? If warfare is evil by nature, even to survive, then Good dies out in a couple of generations when faced by Evil, which will gladly kill and eat them. </p><p></p><p>Good and pacifism are not the same thing. Allowing evil to continue because the Evil won't listen to you and be friendly, meaning you can't stop them without violence, and you won't be violent...that's selfish. that's refusing to sully your precious morals even though the fate of the world is at stake. Also, when Evil kicks in the door and tries to eat your babies, it is often too late for effective action.</p><p></p><p>I'd say refusing to fight Evil is at best a Neutral act.</p><p></p><p>"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. "</p><p>Edmund Burke</p><p></p><p>"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it. "</p><p>Martin Luther King, Jr.</p><p></p><p>(On the other hand, Gandhi opposed evil nonviolently. As I recall, this got him killed.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JackGiantkiller, post: 1915053, member: 5080"] Earlier in this thread, this statement was made: "there are also evil persons IRL, but you don't kill them even if you have the opportunity to 100% escape law punishment." My question: if you know they are evil, have seen them committing the evil, and you won't be punished for killing them....why *don't* you kill them? In modern terms, many things we do in D&D, as our chracters, are evil. But to a medieval mindset, these things were not evil. In part, we play the game to roleplay the mindset of different cultures and periods. We should take into account the prevalent opinions in the world on the nature of good and evil, even if we personally believe that evil is objective. And if Evil is truly objective, and whole races actually are Evil with a big E...how can it be evil to slay them? If warfare is evil by nature, even to survive, then Good dies out in a couple of generations when faced by Evil, which will gladly kill and eat them. Good and pacifism are not the same thing. Allowing evil to continue because the Evil won't listen to you and be friendly, meaning you can't stop them without violence, and you won't be violent...that's selfish. that's refusing to sully your precious morals even though the fate of the world is at stake. Also, when Evil kicks in the door and tries to eat your babies, it is often too late for effective action. I'd say refusing to fight Evil is at best a Neutral act. "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. " Edmund Burke "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it. " Martin Luther King, Jr. (On the other hand, Gandhi opposed evil nonviolently. As I recall, this got him killed.) [/QUOTE]
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