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<blockquote data-quote="Windjammer" data-source="post: 5045676" data-attributes="member: 60075"><p>My take on this: </p><p></p><p>Whether one is playing Pathfinder, 3.5., or 4E, any DM for any of those systems have the Monster Manual. The monsters therein overlap, and that overlap lets you tap into a huge number of monster combinations. (I say, for 4E you really need to add the MM 2, but then no self-respecting 4E DM should be without one. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> )</p><p></p><p>Hence my suggestion to Goodman:</p><p></p><p>Leave out stat blocks - reference the respective MMs with page numbers.</p><p>Use the 4E format for encounter groups, and use that format for referencing 3.5/Pathfinder encounters too. And, most importantly, give the page numbers direct. 4E started to do this in <em>Revenge of the Giants</em>, speeds up finding the critters (I hope they continue that trend - hated to pencil these refs in in my MMs).</p><p></p><p>Here's an example. Let's look at Paizo's Burnt Offerings, opening sequence (beware SPOILERs!).</p><p></p><p>In suggesting this, I'm biased as a DM who really likes to run encounters off the Monster Manual. I'm a bit surprised, to be honest, that this isn't a more widespread practice. Both Pathfinder and 4E pride themselves to boast bestiaries which allow you to run monsters out of the book, where 3.5 often fell short (dragons, anyone?). It's extremely simply - all you need are 2-4 post-it's which you stick into you MM/Bestiary at the beginning of your encounter, and then flipping between the pages takes only a second as you don't need to find the same pages over and over within that encounter.</p><p></p><p>What I'm saying, in short, is that Goodman shouldn't focus on providing the stat blocks but on providing the meat of adventures. That's where WotC falls short, and it would serve GG well to offer an alternative.</p><p></p><p>Offering stat block "short versions" (as in, hp, AC, and to-hit only) won't work for 90% of the monsters - for those you need to head to the respective MM of your preferred edition, so I suggest to do that straight away.</p><p></p><p>PS. What could help Goodman with respect to evaluating the cogency of my proposal is an Enworld poll re: do you run encounters off your Monster Manual(s), or do you print them out separately?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Windjammer, post: 5045676, member: 60075"] My take on this: Whether one is playing Pathfinder, 3.5., or 4E, any DM for any of those systems have the Monster Manual. The monsters therein overlap, and that overlap lets you tap into a huge number of monster combinations. (I say, for 4E you really need to add the MM 2, but then no self-respecting 4E DM should be without one. :) ) Hence my suggestion to Goodman: Leave out stat blocks - reference the respective MMs with page numbers. Use the 4E format for encounter groups, and use that format for referencing 3.5/Pathfinder encounters too. And, most importantly, give the page numbers direct. 4E started to do this in [I]Revenge of the Giants[/I], speeds up finding the critters (I hope they continue that trend - hated to pencil these refs in in my MMs). Here's an example. Let's look at Paizo's Burnt Offerings, opening sequence (beware SPOILERs!). In suggesting this, I'm biased as a DM who really likes to run encounters off the Monster Manual. I'm a bit surprised, to be honest, that this isn't a more widespread practice. Both Pathfinder and 4E pride themselves to boast bestiaries which allow you to run monsters out of the book, where 3.5 often fell short (dragons, anyone?). It's extremely simply - all you need are 2-4 post-it's which you stick into you MM/Bestiary at the beginning of your encounter, and then flipping between the pages takes only a second as you don't need to find the same pages over and over within that encounter. What I'm saying, in short, is that Goodman shouldn't focus on providing the stat blocks but on providing the meat of adventures. That's where WotC falls short, and it would serve GG well to offer an alternative. Offering stat block "short versions" (as in, hp, AC, and to-hit only) won't work for 90% of the monsters - for those you need to head to the respective MM of your preferred edition, so I suggest to do that straight away. PS. What could help Goodman with respect to evaluating the cogency of my proposal is an Enworld poll re: do you run encounters off your Monster Manual(s), or do you print them out separately? [/QUOTE]
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